Test E, NPP, Masteron cycle

Hi Guys,

So as i mentioned in another thread, i was planning a test e and masteron cycle to start within the next month or possibly in Jan. Will probably start and finish with anavar as well.

Planned cycle was mainly to lean out some more while adding a bit of size... hence the "low dose" of test

WK 1-10 Test E 300mg (0.5ml every 3rd day/ twice a week)
Wk 1-10 Mast 300mg (1ml every 3rd day/ twice a week)
Wk 1- 6 anavar 40-60mg (depending on how bad pumps are)
Wk 10-15 anavar 40-60mg(depending on how bad pumps are)

WK 4-15 HCG

PCT: 14 days of Clomid 50mg followed by 30 days of Nolva
Possibly adding Aromasin to the PCT as well.
After PCT considering some GW just to keep me going through that crappy feeling of not being on cycle. i think a month of GW should be fine to get over that phsychological crap feeling after PCT

However i have an existing knee issues and recently been having some shoulder issues so considered adding NPP to the mix. What is everyone's thoughts on this?
I was thinking of doing 300mg per week split into 2 shots of 1ml (150mg) each.
was thinking of running it from wk 1-8 in addition to the above cycle.

Effectively my cycle will now look like this:

WK 1-10 Test E 300mg (0.5ml every 3rd day/ twice a week)
Wk 1-10 Mast 300mg (1ml every 3rd day/ twice a week)
Wk 1-8 npp 300mg (1ml every 3rd day/ twice a week)
Wk 1- 6 anavar 40-60mg (depending on how bad pumps are)
Wk 10-15 anavar (depending on how bad pumps are)

With PCT remaining the same.

I have not added cabaser in this cycle as i would like to see how i respond to the NPP, however i will be adding letro and keeping the cabaser on hand. My understanding is that prolactin is linked to estrogen and if estro is kept under control then prolactin won't always be an issue. If any issues do arise i will then add the cabaser.

Then with the letro, can anyone perhaps assist with recommending a dosage?

As for stats: 1.78m, weight at 94kg and bodyfat guestimate is around 13-15%, will get it checked for accuracy. Diet is usually good and clean but for cycle purposes i will start cleaning up to have it spot on before starting the cycle. No point in doing the cycle if i don't do it properly.

I have been thinking of keeping my calories on maintenance level as to find somewhat of a "balance" between growing and cutting. My thinking is that i won't gain hectic size due to not packing in calories, however i will maintain and increase some muscle mass while losing fat. Due to the AAS all calories should be utilized more efficiently and nothing will be wasted which should give me the result of my goals. Someone please correct me if this way of thinking is incorrect.

PS i just read my first cycle which will be a year ago on 27 November. Just got butterflies thinking about pinning again. Since then i have experimented with a simple anavar and proviron cycle for 5 weeks as well as trying out 30 days of GW after that PCT. This is my cycle history which isn't much, however i feel that i can safely take on the npp at the dosage set out above.

Thanks in advance for the assistance.

As usual, all criticism and advice is welcome.

Regards,
Saddam Hoosain

So i guess i should hold off on the NPP for now lol

That's quite a lot of gear per week, almost a gram. That's a lot hey, specifically for your history.

NPP does definitely help with joint recovery but it's not permanent. Also I don't think it's worth adding NPP just for that use, you risk a lot of sides popping up with all those compounds.

Your original cycle is very focused on cutting and although NPP has been great for me, I'm definitely not able to cut now, appetite is through the roof. I reckon do your original cycle now, have a break and then do an NPP cycle. At least you will figure our how each one works with your body, without the influence of something else. Once you've done that and established how you react to the different compounds, then progress to a bigger stack if necessary. TBH I'm not sure if it would ever be necessary to take that much gear.

Enjoy the test and mast cycle, it's really a good one. You shouldn't need an AI on the original cycle, have it on hand but don't take it as a matter of course.

Good luck.

Mfezdro wrote: That's quite a lot of gear per week, almost a gram. That's a lot hey, specifically for your history.

NPP does definitely help with joint recovery but it's not permanent. Also I don't think it's worth adding NPP just for that use, you risk a lot of sides popping up with all those compounds.

Your original cycle is very focused on cutting and although NPP has been great for me, I'm definitely not able to cut now, appetite is through the roof. I reckon do your original cycle now, have a break and then do an NPP cycle. At least you will figure our how each one works with your body, without the influence of something else. Once you've done that and established how you react to the different compounds, then progress to a bigger stack if necessary. TBH I'm not sure if it would ever be necessary to take that much gear.

Enjoy the test and mast cycle, it's really a good one. You shouldn't need an AI on the original cycle, have it on hand but don't take it as a matter of course.

Good luck.

Thanks bud. That's the kinda advice i needed.
NPP can wait. Will just take it easy on the shoulder then. Test and mast can go ahead as planned

I wouldn't use the letro nor cabaser but will have both on hand. Gyno doesn't happen overnight.

You can always run your test @ 150mg per week
Kickoff with sdrol @ 20mg ed split, keep the var for bridge
Masteron 450mg pw
Anavar 60mg ed for 8 weeks or 80mg for 6 weeks.
100mg Nandro is enough to assist with irritating pains&strains, but GH for injuries is a much better option or rest if out & train around it / rehab

The above is a very mild cycle and you should have any shit.

Oupa wrote: I wouldn't use the letro nor cabaser but will have both on hand. Gyno doesn't happen overnight.

You can always run your test @ 150mg per week
Kickoff with sdrol @ 20mg ed split, keep the var for bridge
Masteron 450mg pw
Anavar 60mg ed for 8 weeks or 80mg for 6 weeks.
100mg Nandro is enough to assist with irritating pains&strains, but GH for injuries is a much better option or rest if out & train around it / rehab

The above is a very mild cycle and you should have any shit.

Thanks Oupa, i figure the letro and cabaser isn't needed due to the masteron being used and the npp being low dose?

Also, why do you recommend the low test? To lessen the chance of aromatase?

Lastly, why the recommendation to kick with superdrol? If i look at the superdrol profile on the ancillaries table then i see that it's rated highly for mass, strength and side effects. Now i don't mind the strength and would welcome the size, however i'm planning more to cut and my eyes go big when i read gyno. I see on the ancillaries table it shows gyno as a big side needing caber/letro along side this cycle. However i also read that the gyno possibly comes from more free test being available which could possibly turn into estro.
Now based on my own knowledge (and opinion), is the masteron then also going to assist with the aromatase issue due to it's anti estrogen properties? If yes then i would be more than happy to try out superdrol. I just chose anavar due to it's safety aspect in terms of low side effects and then ofcourse the cutting benefits

Sorry for all the questions.

so nearly a year later and i'm back on this boat. eventually i did not do the cycle as planned above. So now i feel i' ready to tackle it. This year has been quite tough with me having a full time job, running my own business and helping my wife with her new venture. Training slowed down quite a bit and bodyfat picked up a bit as well. So the obvious and responsible thing would be for me to get eating in check, cut back on my work and get proper rest and kick the training up a notch. Once i'm happy with the diet and training i'll start the cycle. Due to y previous experience i'm estimating that i could reach my weight, bf and training goals by december and kick of my cycle in the holiday period when work is close to a stand still and i'll have more time to myself

My options are the cycle as oupa suggested with anavar instead of superdrol (i'm a sucker for anavar)
test 150mg/200mg per week
npp at 150mg/200mg per week
masteron at 450mg per week
anavar 60mg per day for the last 4 weeks of cycle as well as 2 week bridge period

The other option is to avoid gear and try a sarm stack. I've been considering LGD along with something else to aid in lean mass. not too clued up with the sarms so will read up a bit. all suggestions and advice welcome in this department. might even throw in some mhr as well.

Lgd & mk677 one option im also into trying when i get my hands on it.
One of my buddies did his contest pre on only mk-677. Nd it worked well on a cut.

Hoosain wrote:

Oupa wrote: I wouldn't use the letro nor cabaser but will have both on hand. Gyno doesn't happen overnight.

You can always run your test @ 150mg per week
Kickoff with sdrol @ 20mg ed split, keep the var for bridge
Masteron 450mg pw
Anavar 60mg ed for 8 weeks or 80mg for 6 weeks.
100mg Nandro is enough to assist with irritating pains&strains, but GH for injuries is a much better option or rest if out & train around it / rehab

The above is a very mild cycle and you should have any shit.

Thanks Oupa, i figure the letro and cabaser isn't needed due to the masteron being used and the npp being low dose?

Also, why do you recommend the low test? To lessen the chance of aromatase?

Lastly, why the recommendation to kick with superdrol? If i look at the superdrol profile on the ancillaries table then i see that it's rated highly for mass, strength and side effects. Now i don't mind the strength and would welcome the size, however i'm planning more to cut and my eyes go big when i read gyno. I see on the ancillaries table it shows gyno as a big side needing caber/letro along side this cycle. However i also read that the gyno possibly comes from more free test being available which could possibly turn into estro.
Now based on my own knowledge (and opinion), is the masteron then also going to assist with the aromatase issue due to it's anti estrogen properties? If yes then i would be more than happy to try out superdrol. I just chose anavar due to it's safety aspect in terms of low side effects and then ofcourse the cutting benefits

Sorry for all the questions.

Caloric deficit + sdrol = Ripped.

Hoosain wrote: so nearly a year later and i'm back on this boat. eventually i did not do the cycle as planned above. So now i feel i' ready to tackle it. This year has been quite tough with me having a full time job, running my own business and helping my wife with her new venture. Training slowed down quite a bit and bodyfat picked up a bit as well. So the obvious and responsible thing would be for me to get eating in check, cut back on my work and get proper rest and kick the training up a notch. Once i'm happy with the diet and training i'll start the cycle. Due to y previous experience i'm estimating that i could reach my weight, bf and training goals by december and kick of my cycle in the holiday period when work is close to a stand still and i'll have more time to myself

My options are the cycle as oupa suggested with anavar instead of superdrol (i'm a sucker for anavar)
test 150mg/200mg per week
npp at 150mg/200mg per week
masteron at 450mg per week
anavar 60mg per day for the last 4 weeks of cycle as well as 2 week bridge period

The other option is to avoid gear and try a sarm stack. I've been considering LGD along with something else to aid in lean mass. not too clued up with the sarms so will read up a bit. all suggestions and advice welcome in this department. might even throw in some mhr as well.

Anavar 4 weeks is wasting money

SamZ4000 wrote: Lgd & mk677 one option im also into trying when i get my hands on it.
One of my buddies did his contest pre on only mk-677. Nd it worked well on a cut.

That's the route i was thinking of going. However i decided i'd rather go the steroid route. Can't help but think it's a waste to get suppressed using Sarms only. If i get suppressed might as well be a worthwhile cycle

Oupa wrote:

Hoosain wrote: so nearly a year later and i'm back on this boat. eventually i did not do the cycle as planned above. So now i feel i' ready to tackle it. This year has been quite tough with me having a full time job, running my own business and helping my wife with her new venture. Training slowed down quite a bit and bodyfat picked up a bit as well. So the obvious and responsible thing would be for me to get eating in check, cut back on my work and get proper rest and kick the training up a notch. Once i'm happy with the diet and training i'll start the cycle. Due to y previous experience i'm estimating that i could reach my weight, bf and training goals by december and kick of my cycle in the holiday period when work is close to a stand still and i'll have more time to myself

My options are the cycle as oupa suggested with anavar instead of superdrol (i'm a sucker for anavar)
test 150mg/200mg per week
npp at 150mg/200mg per week
masteron at 450mg per week
anavar 60mg per day for the last 4 weeks of cycle as well as 2 week bridge period

The other option is to avoid gear and try a sarm stack. I've been considering LGD along with something else to aid in lean mass. not too clued up with the sarms so will read up a bit. all suggestions and advice welcome in this department. might even throw in some mhr as well.

Anavar 4 weeks is wasting money

i actually had it backwards, would be last 2 weeks of cycle plus 4 weeks of bridge on anavar which = 6 weeks.

I've been wanting to kick off the npp for a while so definitely going with the cycle as suggested by oupa. Lets hope the superdrol is nice to me.

The next month will be dedicated to getting my diet 110% in place... and to convince the government to clear the funds for my cycle hahaha. Wife is boss :blush:

You will love sdrol. If you feel shitty just up your carbs and water intake. Look forward to your results.

FIllet wrote: You will love sdrol. If you feel shitty just up your carbs and water intake. Look forward to your results.

Fillet approved compund!! Will definitely keep the carb and water intake in mind if i start feeling crappy.

Whenever i read your posts on advice i get all excited haha. Hope you been well my man

Lol. Don't be silly man, bet you look better than I do. Although my pics are old oral tren and 1500 test has done me favours. All ancillaries as usual. The new company I am at we make fitchef so I eat like a pig all day. Gained 12 kg. Can hardly move in button up shirt and look like a freak but get great compliments. The point is... Food is the answer. Eat. Lift. Steroids. Repeat. I will start a new thread soon but excited about yours. Great choice.