My review of Tren.

I finished a 4 month cycle of HD Labs trinaject a few weeks ago and I want to give my review. It's a tren blend of short and fast acting esters. Took me 2 weeks to feel it and in 6 weeks I was in full blown tren mode.

I did 200mg tren/wk and 550mg of test e/wk
If 200mg of tren sounds like a low dose - it's not. This was my first time using tren so I wanted to start low. I've taken oraltren and deca before, but nothing really compares to tren. It's called the king of steroids for a reason.

The pros;

Appearing leaner, even though bulking.
Look, I don't know how it does it, but I've heard about it before. I picked up 4 kg's in this cycle. If that doesn't sound like a lot, it's not, but if I could show you before an afters. It's crazy. I'm assuming tren changes body composition or the way you store fat, because I picked up 4 kg's in a lean bulk, but I am literally the 'most ripped' I have been in my life. Something about the way tren just affects you, makes you look crazy lean.

The tren look
There's a certain look tren gives you, you look 'enhanced'. To the point where even my non lifting friends were like 'dude what's happening to you?' I just play it off and say im on a cut so I look bigger, even though I was lean bulking. I've never had a 'bodybuilder' look quite like this. Vascular, hard, traps and delts popping. it really is a thing unique to tren.

The pump
I have never experienced this before. The way I look after my workout, it's crazy. I look probably 10 kg's heavier. Everything is so pumped up. You literally look ballooned. And the vascularity is insane. People will stare at you.

No nightsweats or rage
This might be due to the low dose, but I didn't get night sweats or rage. I would get really focused and into my workouts - but that's where it ended. I was worried about getting random rage, but I didn't. I was exactly the same mentally. At higher doses this could obviously change so take that with a grain of salt.

Sex drive
Pretty much what you'd expect. I'm a walking boner.

Cons;

Cardio declining
This is the single biggest con. I could feel after about 8 weeks in, my cardio isn't the same. I would tire quicker, can't run as long as before. Tried to offset it by doing more cardio, but it was more of a bandaid fix to put my mind at ease. I have no doubt that running tren at high doses for really long will damage your heart. But I could literally feel my cardio decline. It's weird, and a little scary.

Insomnia
It didn't happen very often, but enough for me to notice a difference. There were some nights where I just couldn't sleep. Maybe 2 or 3 hours. Where my brain is just going crazy and can't sleep. I reckon mk677 could help with that, but I didn't use it on this cycle. If you get really bad insomnia from tren - stop using it. No point in being juiced up if you can't sleep and impair your body's normal function. Can't build muscle if you can't sleep and recover.

The crash.
I haven't crashed yet, but if it's anything like deca was, it will be quite harsh. Nothing I can't handle though. Anytime you have a really high high, you will have a really low low. It's the nature of things.

The so-so;
I did notice strength gains, but they weren't crazy like on EQ/Deca/Otren. I did get stronger, but it was marginal - maybe 5kg's on a compound here and there.


So that's my review of tren. I honestly give this steroid a 10/10. There's a reason it is called the king. However I would be cautious before using it again. Low dose, not for too long. Honestly 4 months was probably pushing the envelope. Just because of the cardiovascular side effects. But would definitely recommend it to anyone who takes this seriously. Respect it for what it is.

What test did you do with it?

Hahaa I love your description of the pump. Good old tren days. I did however notice extreme strength gains every time I used to run it, but it could have been related to extreme aggression I experienced, I purely hated everyone and everything, that might have been contributed to an extreme lack of sleep while running it.

Nice review.

Awesome review dude! Nice that you went into detail with your experience compared to what others out there say. Also glad that you’re happy with the results. I remember before this cycle you felt like the “lighter cycles” were not really giving you massive changes (could be wrong and it was someone else haha).

Makes me wanna tackle a low dose Tren like yours sometime. Right now I’m still afraid of the king... especially since I had a bit of a tough year last year. However things have been better and I’m slowly approaching the time to hit another cycle. If I do cycle will probably do the same as yours with some anavar added. Maybe drop the test a bit as well my side to avoid any unwanted sides popping up.

So I wanted to give an update and some advice following this;

I have been off for 3.5 months now, I came off completely (test/tren).

The shut down from Tren is harsh, I knew it would be, I've been through this before with Deca. However there is something interesting I felt with coming off of Tren. Tren stays in your system for quite long, and the suppressive side effects stay longer. You have to mentally prepare for this and be aware of it, should you decide to use it.

So it took long to 'crash', I was off for 5+- weeks before I even started feeling any different. I was definitely weaker in the gym after about 2.5 weeks off. I still got mega pumps with veins everywhere for about 6 weeks as well I'd say, then it slowly started getting less prominent*.

I also got some acne post cycle, nothing major though. This is obviously hormonal acne, caused by the massive disparity of hormonal levels from having elevated everything for 4 months and then stopping cold turkey. Everything takes time to find an equilibrium.

I was having sex as per normal, but around week 6 my sex drive died, almost completely. I lost the desire to have sex. I was able to have sex, but required quite a bit of stimulation to get going - which honestly surprised me. Based on how I felt regarding having sex, there was simply no desire, so even being able to, shocked me. Sex did feel different though, not as intense.


*read the next section

However it's not all doom and gloom.
Some things that have stayed post cycle;

-Vascularity
I am definitely more vascular than I am normally, I don't have the 'tren look' level of veins, but I am much more vascular than I was prior to this. What causes that and how it works, I really can't say.
-Strength
I was training exclusively for Powerlifting. In fact that's all I ever do tbh. I lost 15kg's on my bench press. If that sounds like a lot, it's not. I cut out both Tren and Test. I am now 'naturally' lifting more than I did during my second cycle. So something stayed, you can argue that it's because I was still under my genetic potential as a natural or whatever, but the point stands. I can now. Naturally. Lift. What I lifted on 500mg of test.


I did a lot of reading about Tren during my post cycle, read about bodybuilders coming off, general gymrats etc. The general consensus is actually to run your test 4 weeks after you stop tren. And I already knew this, it's what I did with Deca, but this time I didn't do it. Basically tren takes really long to leave your system, so you don't have to experience an all in one mega crash. You can stop tren, run test a bit longer and then stop the test and do a proper PCT. Albeit even with PCT - many people take long to recover from 19-noirs. Many people's logs and personal experiences I read ended up with them deciding to rather blast and cruise, stating that by the time you've recovered from Tren properly, you've been off for so many months, that you will struggle to properly cycle adequate number of times a year. This can be somewhat mitigated by using short esters, low doses and taking tren only for a short amount of time.

So yeah, I just wanted to update you guys. I really like giving detailed explanations of my experiences, so others can learn from it (with a grain of salt ofc - everyone is different and even after 3 years, I'm still learning all the time).

DruOmedra wrote: I
Insomnia
It didn't happen very often, but enough for me to notice a difference. There were some nights where I just couldn't sleep. Maybe 2 or 3 hours. Where my brain is just going crazy and can't sleep. I reckon mk677 could help with that, but I didn't use it on this cycle. If you get really bad insomnia from tren - stop using it. No point in being juiced up if you can't sleep and impair your body's normal function. Can't build muscle if you can't sleep and recover.

The crash.
I haven't crashed yet, but if it's anything like deca was, it will be quite harsh. Nothing I can't handle though. Anytime you have a really high high, you will have a really low low. It's the nature of things.

And this is why I try and shy away from tren during a prep these days or even with clients doing a prep these days. The problem comes in for me is when I do take tren I CANNOT sleep without some form of sleeping tablets and then I wake up groggy. I generally go for dorminoct as my sleeper of choice, however, that comes with its own host of issues.

I did a prep last year using the sniff of an oil rag gear dosages and compared it to my years of doing full-on preps with big doses of drugs, and I have to admit, I looked better on the lower dose cycle than I did with 300mg of tren 300mg Masteron and 450mg prop going through me.


So I am in complete and utter agreement with you on dump the tren if it has a big effect on your sleeping patterns.

The crash. Well, I honestly cannot tell you how hard the crash can be on you physically and mentally too. that stuff is hard man, made me go off the rails a couple of times, shouting my mouth off. Never Physical, but you don't want to be shouting at people stopped in traffic from tren rage. MENTALLY I cannot do tren again, Masteron is also hard on the mental state but nothing compared to tren in my mind.

DruOmedra wrote: So I wanted to give an update and some advice following this;

I have been off for 3.5 months now, I came off completely (test/tren).

The shut down from Tren is harsh, I knew it would be, I've been through this before with Deca. However there is something interesting I felt with coming off of Tren. Tren stays in your system for quite long, and the suppressive side effects stay longer. You have to mentally prepare for this and be aware of it, should you decide to use it.

So it took long to 'crash', I was off for 5+- weeks before I even started feeling any different. I was definitely weaker in the gym after about 2.5 weeks off. I still got mega pumps with veins everywhere for about 6 weeks as well I'd say, then it slowly started getting less prominent*.

I also got some acne post cycle, nothing major though. This is obviously hormonal acne, caused by the massive disparity of hormonal levels from having elevated everything for 4 months and then stopping cold turkey. Everything takes time to find an equilibrium.

I was having sex as per normal, but around week 6 my sex drive died, almost completely. I lost the desire to have sex. I was able to have sex, but required quite a bit of stimulation to get going - which honestly surprised me. Based on how I felt regarding having sex, there was simply no desire, so even being able to, shocked me. Sex did feel different though, not as intense.


*read the next section

However it's not all doom and gloom.
Some things that have stayed post cycle;

-Vascularity
I am definitely more vascular than I am normally, I don't have the 'tren look' level of veins, but I am much more vascular than I was prior to this. What causes that and how it works, I really can't say.
-Strength
I was training exclusively for Powerlifting. In fact that's all I ever do tbh. I lost 15kg's on my bench press. If that sounds like a lot, it's not. I cut out both Tren and Test. I am now 'naturally' lifting more than I did during my second cycle. So something stayed, you can argue that it's because I was still under my genetic potential as a natural or whatever, but the point stands. I can now. Naturally. Lift. What I lifted on 500mg of test.


I did a lot of reading about Tren during my post cycle, read about bodybuilders coming off, general gymrats etc. The general consensus is actually to run your test 4 weeks after you stop tren. And I already knew this, it's what I did with Deca, but this time I didn't do it. Basically tren takes really long to leave your system, so you don't have to experience an all in one mega crash. You can stop tren, run test a bit longer and then stop the test and do a proper PCT. Albeit even with PCT - many people take long to recover from 19-noirs. Many people's logs and personal experiences I read ended up with them deciding to rather blast and cruise, stating that by the time you've recovered from Tren properly, you've been off for so many months, that you will struggle to properly cycle adequate number of times a year. This can be somewhat mitigated by using short esters, low doses and taking tren only for a short amount of time.

So yeah, I just wanted to update you guys. I really like giving detailed explanations of my experiences, so others can learn from it (with a grain of salt ofc - everyone is different and even after 3 years, I'm still learning all the time).

Pretty much exactly what I experienced, a month after stopping, my see drive was still through the roof and then about 6 weeks, crashed to nothing. Pretty much what I'm dealing with now since my Test is struggling to bounce back. Sex feels empty. Strange feeling.

Sleeping was horrific, I don't think I slept properly once in 6 weeks while on. Right now, I actually dread the use of Tren again due to the intense mental effects.

I also experienced the same thing with my strength, I actually never lost any strength, I kept going up.

Thanks for the post, gives so nice insight into what guys can expect.

Some great feedback. 200mg a week of PGW tren is pretty potent. I find I great results from just 100mg/week with some test. But I don't have unrealistic expectations. No intense mental ups and downs at that dose, and I can keep my cholesterol and BP at borderline acceptable levels. Even at 100mg/week my resting heart rate is about 10bpm higher than normal but I can live with that. My no. 2 steroid after test.

I often run it low dose for a few months at a time, but If I bump it to 200mg or more I get stressed out way too easily and my cardiovascular system starts to take a beating.

Definitely not recommended for youngsters or those with high blood pressure. You really need to be pretty grounded and mellow and know who you are if you use tren or it will fuck with your mind in a very bad way. I've seen some young okes go to very dark, depressed places from it.

I can run about 16 weeks low dose tren before my body just say no more, change

DruOmedra wrote: So I wanted to give an update and some advice following this;

I have been off for 3.5 months now, I came off completely (test/tren).

The shut down from Tren is harsh, I knew it would be, I've been through this before with Deca. However there is something interesting I felt with coming off of Tren. Tren stays in your system for quite long, and the suppressive side effects stay longer. You have to mentally prepare for this and be aware of it, should you decide to use it.

So it took long to 'crash', I was off for 5+- weeks before I even started feeling any different. I was definitely weaker in the gym after about 2.5 weeks off. I still got mega pumps with veins everywhere for about 6 weeks as well I'd say, then it slowly started getting less prominent*.

I also got some acne post cycle, nothing major though. This is obviously hormonal acne, caused by the massive disparity of hormonal levels from having elevated everything for 4 months and then stopping cold turkey. Everything takes time to find an equilibrium.

I was having sex as per normal, but around week 6 my sex drive died, almost completely. I lost the desire to have sex. I was able to have sex, but required quite a bit of stimulation to get going - which honestly surprised me. Based on how I felt regarding having sex, there was simply no desire, so even being able to, shocked me. Sex did feel different though, not as intense.


*read the next section

However it's not all doom and gloom.
Some things that have stayed post cycle;

-Vascularity
I am definitely more vascular than I am normally, I don't have the 'tren look' level of veins, but I am much more vascular than I was prior to this. What causes that and how it works, I really can't say.
-Strength
I was training exclusively for Powerlifting. In fact that's all I ever do tbh. I lost 15kg's on my bench press. If that sounds like a lot, it's not. I cut out both Tren and Test. I am now 'naturally' lifting more than I did during my second cycle. So something stayed, you can argue that it's because I was still under my genetic potential as a natural or whatever, but the point stands. I can now. Naturally. Lift. What I lifted on 500mg of test.


I did a lot of reading about Tren during my post cycle, read about bodybuilders coming off, general gymrats etc. The general consensus is actually to run your test 4 weeks after you stop tren. And I already knew this, it's what I did with Deca, but this time I didn't do it. Basically tren takes really long to leave your system, so you don't have to experience an all in one mega crash. You can stop tren, run test a bit longer and then stop the test and do a proper PCT. Albeit even with PCT - many people take long to recover from 19-noirs. Many people's logs and personal experiences I read ended up with them deciding to rather blast and cruise, stating that by the time you've recovered from Tren properly, you've been off for so many months, that you will struggle to properly cycle adequate number of times a year. This can be somewhat mitigated by using short esters, low doses and taking tren only for a short amount of time.

So yeah, I just wanted to update you guys. I really like giving detailed explanations of my experiences, so others can learn from it (with a
grain of salt ofc - everyone is different and even after 3 years, I'm still learning all the time).

Great review by the way. Question, so u ran PCT and still crashed ? Could u break down you PCT for me ( waiting period, compounds used and for how long)

Once i feel im starting to crash, i use a HCG for a while, slow shit down, super clean diet for a few weeks. Basies stop jy al die kak. Recover.

You will know when you ready

King-Cy wrote: Great review by the way. Question, so u ran PCT and still crashed ? Could u break down you PCT for me ( waiting period, compounds used and for how long)

Recovery from tren can be complicated. Post cycle blood work may show that you have recovered with decent testosterone levels, E2 in check, etc, but you might still have symptoms of low testosterone like low libido, lack of drive, feeling less focused.

After doing a super androgenic cycle where you feel like the hulk, your 'normal hormonal balance' no longer feels like the pre-cycle normal, despite blood work being fine. You might take a while to adjust before you feel like your old yourself again. Every high always has a low. There is no quick fix without a consequence.