Mk 677 and cardarine

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16 Feb 2020 11:39 #221192 by Mr Z
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Hey guys so I'm planning on stacking mk 677 with cardarine and as a first time user I have a few questions:

1 - should it also be dosed on an empty stomach like other GHRPs ?
2 - dosage time the morning or evening?
3 - I can get it in LP do you guys suggest that brand or any other and which dosage?
4 - Results and benefits and how would you compare it to HGH since they give similar results? Thanks guys.

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25 Feb 2020 13:27 #221262 by Oupa
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I recommend using only MK667 for 4 weeks before you add anything.

Dosage - evening before bed.
Get LP, amazing product.
Results show quicker, recovery is faster in the 1st 4 weeks, HGH takes 60 to 90 days to show results, but recovery and endurance can be felt in the first weeks.
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27 Feb 2020 09:47 #221299 by Mr Z
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Dankie Oupa. Does it also increase prolactin and cortisol like other Ghrps?

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27 Feb 2020 11:34 #221300 by Oupa
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Mr Z wrote: Dankie Oupa. Does it also increase prolactin and cortisol like other Ghrps?


initial usage yes, but it changes after continues usage. Go have a read about that, its quite interesting.
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27 Feb 2020 13:33 #221303 by Mr Z
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Thank you once again sir.

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13 Jun 2020 10:44 #222562 by Mr Z
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Hey guys busting up an old thread to prevent a new one. So I'm 3 days in to my LP mk 677 and I haven't noticed the drastic increase in hunger like everyone else and no lethargy too. Am I just one of the lucky ones? Thought this stuff was so potent? I do notice a more restful sleep and feel refreshed when I wake up

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13 Jun 2020 11:58 #222564 by Oupa
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Nothing works in 3 days, wait 10 to 14 days. (first weeks) not (first days)
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13 Jun 2020 20:41 #222571 by Muscleaddict
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I get the hunger from MK-677 right from day 1. If I take it before bed I wake up an hour earlier with my stomach screaming for food.

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14 Jun 2020 11:02 #222577 by Mr Z
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I don't seem to be getting that at all and no lethargy but my sleep so far is amazing. The tabs from mk is green. I'm sure I'm one of the lucky ones I just don't want any bunk orals.

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15 Jun 2020 13:22 #222609 by 00pump
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Has anyone on here tested their IGF levels after 4 to 6 weeks. Some of the studies I've read show remarkable increases. Well over 300.. I might have forgotten how I felt on it, but if the results are as good as they show on paper its far cheaper than using GH. I just can't remember if blood pressure and edema was such a problem for me.

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15 Jun 2020 14:10 #222610 by Jacktuary
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MK with 300 IGF-1 levels... shit man. Can you link the study maybe. Wanna check that out!!

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15 Jun 2020 15:05 - 15 Jun 2020 15:23 #222611 by 00pump
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I will go through my history on my phone as I stumbled on it last night, but here is impressive figures anyway.

1)
mayoclinic.pure.elsevier.com/en/publicat...like-growth-factor-i

2)
academic.oup.com/jcem/article/82/10/3455/2823475


I actually think it was a video I watched on Dr Rand on Jay Cutler TV..

I found it..


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16 Jun 2020 16:23 #222616 by Muscleaddict
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00pump wrote: Has anyone on here tested their IGF levels after 4 to 6 weeks. Some of the studies I've read show remarkable increases. Well over 300.. I might have forgotten how I felt on it, but if the results are as good as they show on paper its far cheaper than using GH. I just can't remember if blood pressure and edema was such a problem for me.


I find it's a good alternative to low dose HGH but nothing spectacular. 1 cap of LP MK per day I'd put on par with around a 1IU bump of HGH, but with some extra water retention. Good bang for buck considering the convenience. I don't think anybody is going to double their IGF-1 levels from around 150 to 300, but low 200's could get to 300 or so which is about 1IU-1.5IU HGH. Most clinical studies are using doses closer to 2 caps of LP MK.

Bloodwork showing over 300 wouldn't be guys in their 40's or older unless they are on aas.
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16 Jun 2020 18:32 #222617 by Mr Z
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So far the sleep is amazing and I'm starting to notice the fullness in muscle and I'm 6 days In. A little irritation but all good so far.

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16 Jun 2020 19:32 #222618 by 00pump
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Muscleaddict wrote:

00pump wrote: Has anyone on here tested their IGF levels after 4 to 6 weeks. Some of the studies I've read show remarkable increases. Well over 300.. I might have forgotten how I felt on it, but if the results are as good as they show on paper its far cheaper than using GH. I just can't remember if blood pressure and edema was such a problem for me.


I find it's a good alternative to low dose HGH but nothing spectacular. 1 cap of LP MK per day I'd put on par with around a 1IU bump of HGH, but with some extra water retention. Good bang for buck considering the convenience. I don't think anybody is going to double their IGF-1 levels from around 150 to 300, but low 200's could get to 300 or so which is about 1IU-1.5IU HGH. Most clinical studies are using doses closer to 2 caps of LP MK.

Bloodwork showing over 300 wouldn't be guys in their 40's or older unless they are on aas.


Thanks for the feedback bud.

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20 Jun 2020 17:28 #222650 by Mr Z
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10 days in and I noticed a libido increase. Still no hunger issues just sluggish a lot during the day.

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21 Jun 2020 10:33 #222657 by Empire
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Mr Z wrote: 10 days in and I noticed a libido increase. Still no hunger issues just sluggish a lot during the day.


when are u taking your mk?

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21 Jun 2020 13:23 #222669 by Mr Z
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Right before bed on empty stomach. Surprisingly I feel better using 30mg EOD

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22 Jun 2020 11:01 #222678 by Oupa
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Mr Z wrote: Right before bed on empty stomach. Surprisingly I feel better using 30mg EOD


Whats your current age and weight?

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22 Jun 2020 11:20 #222679 by Muscleaddict
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Mr Z wrote: 10 days in and I noticed a libido increase. Still no hunger issues just sluggish a lot during the day.


It has no effect at all on male sex hormones. Placebo effect.

Mr Z wrote: Surprisingly I feel better using 30mg EOD


That is less effective. It would need a longer half life to more effective EOD. It has a very low saturation dose, which means that any dose above that will give increasingly diminishing effects as you take more. 30mg is only maybe 30% more effective than 15mg, despite being 100% more.
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22 Jun 2020 11:47 #222680 by Mr Z
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27 years and went up from 74kgs to 77kgs which I assume is water due to the mk.

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22 Jun 2020 11:50 - 22 Jun 2020 11:51 #222681 by Mr Z
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Ok so it's better to just rather stay on 15mg? I'll try one month 15mg and another month 30mg eod and see how it goes. Im just confused about the hunger that everyone complains about as I experience no hunger issues at all even on 30mg on empty stomach.
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22 Jun 2020 12:13 #222683 by Muscleaddict
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Yes.

That's odd. It's not something that should have an effect on some but not others. It is an analog of ghrelin which is the hormone that make you feel hungry. It binds to receptors in the brain with the function of directly stimulating your appetite.

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22 Jun 2020 13:08 #222685 by Jacktuary
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I've used MK before when SARMS were still OTC- i also didnt experience hunger.

I have found a link however.
Mehtyl Estrogen is a by product of Dianabol and Trestolone(MENT).
So the hunger spike from both is due to massive Ghrelin spikes that are secreted by your pancreas shortly after injection or consumption.
People like me dont seem to get hunger spikes from DBol and if i do its extremely low.

So- if you dont get hunger spikes from dbol or test then MK677 wont cause it either most probably.
(I may be wrong about this)
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22 Jun 2020 13:56 #222686 by Mr Z
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Ahhhh I see yes. The only time I had ever gotten a huge increase in hunger was after injecting 200mcg hexarelin and 200mcg cjc. Also extreme lethargy to the point where all I want to do is sleep. Was expecting the same effect with the mk but nope nothing at all.

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