Taking Testosterone on blood thinners

Hi guys so I've been diagnosed with thrombosis which is a blood clot in my calf and I was wondering if I should carrying on taking test or if I should stop as the test could negatively affect the blood thinners?

Yes, testosterone in above normal doses increases your red blood cell count (haematocrit) above the 'normal' range which increase the viscosity of your blood and will put you at higher risk of of adverse event.

With your condition you should definitely be getting blood work done. If you continue with the T, stick to lower doses, give blood every 5-6 weeks to lower you haematocrit, and blood work to get it checked regularly.

Muscleaddict wrote: Yes, testosterone in above normal doses increases your red blood cell count (haematocrit) above the 'normal' range which increase the viscosity of your blood and will put you at higher risk of of adverse event.

With your condition you should definitely be getting blood work done. If you continue with the T, stick to lower doses, give blood every 5-6 weeks to lower you haematocrit, and blood work to get it checked regularly.

So I can donate blood while in the thinners?

emile6 wrote:

Muscleaddict wrote: Yes, testosterone in above normal doses increases your red blood cell count (haematocrit) above the 'normal' range which increase the viscosity of your blood and will put you at higher risk of of adverse event.

With your condition you should definitely be getting blood work done. If you continue with the T, stick to lower doses, give blood every 5-6 weeks to lower you haematocrit, and blood work to get it checked regularly.

So I can donate blood while in the thinners?

A shit, you should not donate blood then, and there is no other sure way to lower haematocrit that I know of. Get blood work done. But steroids are not a good idea for you unfortunately. There is definitely a health risk bud.

What test are you taking and how often?
I recall reading a study where shorter esters as well as higher dosages less frequently of testosterone both can worsen the effects of increased blood cell count.

Not much better but still better was using longer esters more frequently rather than higher dosages less frequently.

I stand to be corrected on this

syntax wrote: What test are you taking and how often?
I recall reading a study where shorter esters as well as higher dosages less frequently of testosterone both can worsen the effects of increased blood cell count.

Not much better but still better was using longer esters more frequently rather than higher dosages less frequently.

I stand to be corrected on this

I'm taking sustanon 350 1ML divided in 5 shots Monday to Saturday. So it's long and short esters.

What blood thinner are you on, that is the most important, I'm assuming it's Xarelto and not Warfrin ?

00pump wrote: What blood thinner are you on, that is the most important, I'm assuming it's Xarelto and not Warfrin ?

I'm on iXarola/Rivaroxaban

Ya that's Xarelto , I haven't had issues with it my self,
my dad uses them and he's old and takes TRT.

If you have thrombosis there's quite a difference between TRT dose and 350mg/week with risk factors for a pulmonary embolism or stroke . Haematocrit increase from testosterone supplementation is dose dependant.

I hope you have done further investigations to rule out the underlying cause. Assuming it was only caused by the steroids, whilst they may contribute, would be false. Furthermore, the length of treatment tends to be 3 months if a major is identified. If your physician were to decide that the steroid use is the cause this would entail you having to stop use or be on anti-coagulation indefinetly. There are many other questions you would need to be asked and many more investigations needed to be performed or else it will happen again.
Personally I would not play around with my body until the 3 months of Anti-coagulation and I know the DVT has resolved. The Risk of a pulmonary embolism would scare me enough.
Any plans on thrombolytic therapy or thrombectomy in the future?
For now I would stick to TRT, actual TRT (Ideally as low a dose as possible). You could also come off hormones but you shouldn't use a typical PCT since the drugs used in PCTs are pro-thrombotic themselves.

Muscleaddict wrote: If you have thrombosis there's quite a difference between TRT dose and 350mg/week with risk factors for a pulmonary embolism or stroke . Haematocrit increase from testosterone supplementation is dose dependant.

Just more out of interest, you would not be at risk of a stroke in the cause of a DVT since, assuming you don't have an undiagnosed hole in your heart allowing access from the right to the left side of the heart bypassing the lung vasculature (this is a rare state called a paradoxical embolus), the clot would be stopped in the pulmonary vasculature causing a pulmonary embolism.

LesDoctor wrote: I hope you have done further investigations to rule out the underlying cause. Assuming it was only caused by the steroids, whilst they may contribute, would be false. Furthermore, the length of treatment tends to be 3 months if a major is identified. If your physician were to decide that the steroid use is the cause this would entail you having to stop use or be on anti-coagulation indefinetly. There are many other questions you would need to be asked and many more investigations needed to be performed or else it will happen again.
Personally I would not play around with my body until the 3 months of Anti-coagulation and I know the DVT has resolved. The Risk of a pulmonary embolism would scare me enough.
Any plans on thrombolytic therapy or thrombectomy in the future?
For now I would stick to TRT, actual TRT (Ideally as low a dose as possible). You could also come off hormones but you shouldn't use a typical PCT since the drugs used in PCTs are pro-thrombotic themselves.

Thanks. I actually got the dvt from tearing my calf muscle and strapping a bandage too tight wasn't on any anabolics at the time. I'm still relatively young 26 so I don't think I trt would be good. I did all my blood tests and everything was fine no need for any further action after the 3 months. But I will definitely come off for the rest of the months I have left. Thanks.

100 percent, no point taking a risk, the steroids should not directly interfere with the blood thinner but indirectly they will, wait this out, get yourself back on the mend, you have many years to cycle.