Newbie to PED's - need some advice on high E2

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14 Aug 2021 06:51 #225879 by Shooter C
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Thanks Empire. Just a question about the primo if I may. Do I then need to split up the dosage as you recommend and pin daily, or can I split up the 1ml in two and pin it with the test two times a week?

Say for instance

week 1-6 (250ml test x twice a week + 0.5ml primo x twice a week
week 7-13 (250ml test x twice a week + 1ml primo x twice a week


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14 Aug 2021 07:18 #225880 by Empire
It's a long ester. So no you can do one jab a week. I have been..

And you have doubled your test dosage. Do 200 then 250mg. I'm sitting at a lbm of about 88, 89kgs currently and im only using 250mg which is just shy of the 3mg per kg. I have no issues with e2 control, and bp when not on clen preparing for this show on 20g of salt per day is 126/82.

You are having issues with e2 so going to 500mg of test is going to be a fuck up. And I would rather see you using 200 to 300mg of npp with primo and test than running high test as that is causing your e2 issues.

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14 Aug 2021 07:31 #225881 by Shooter C
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O yes, sorry for that Empire,I wrote wrong about the test but did understand what you sugested, I already changes it to only 250 for the week as sugested by you. Thanks yor explaining the primo too. Are the primo much more expensive than the test?

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15 Aug 2021 05:25 #225882 by Empire
Primo is not a cheap substance , no. But at the same time you won't be having the side effects of running crazy cycles. So are you willing to use a more expensive substance and have less complications?

The doses some people recommend are retarded for primo, some people on this site say 800mg a week. You do not need that dosing.
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15 Aug 2021 08:13 #225883 by Shooter C
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Thanks Empire for all your help, and thanks to the other guys too. Great to be part of a forum with people as yourself with a wealth of knowledge and the willingness to help and share your knowledge new guys

Enjoy your day

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16 Aug 2021 23:24 #225893 by jooceboi456
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Something to keep in mind when thinking of running a high dose cycle

The body is sitting with low to normal level of androgens correct? Now think about the shock the body experiences and the spike in hormones from normal levels to insane levels? Now think about the shock and sudden drop in hormones when you come off? granted,enanthate esthers take long to clear and the metabolites can stay in the system for a long time,but the fluctuation is tremendous when coming off. this is the reason why so many guys feel like shit when coming off cycles and feel weak,tired,lazy and demotivated to train or stick to their diet. The massive influx of hormones when going on and the drop of hormones going off cycle causes major acne breakouts as well ( that's just something I noticed ). It's a lot less stress for the body to go through when starting with a lower dose and then titrating up,then titrating back down. The lower the dose,the faster the body can reach homeostasis for stable blood levels :) Just my practical experience. I'm no doctor,the admins and other members are much more knowledgeable on the details regarding bloodwork,but always try to go the safer logical route. Not the yolo mentality
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