Options with minimal fertility effects

Evening all,

It's been a long long time since I've been active on here... largely because years ago I left the bodybuilding game to spend more quality time with my daughter, in particular while mountainbiking together and supporting her as she started racing in the junior age groups. Cycling consumed my life and most of my muscle mass... but now that she's older and already faster than me I've made a return to the gym and am almost 50% of my way back to previous condition.
It's been great getting back into the gym seriously over the past 12 months but now I'm starting to feel my age as I push up against my natural barriers. Normally this wouldn't be an issue, I'd simply run a cycle for the first time in years and bounce back, but it's a little more complicated right now...
My wife and I have been trying for babies for the past 5 years with no luck (amazingly nothing wrong with my swimmers, just a numbers game with her egg count) and are in the middle of IVF procedures. We've had 2 unsuccessful embryo transfers and with the next on the cards for a few months time it's just not an option for me to use anything that could potentially jeopardize it. So that brings me to my question.
What are my options to get a little boost without impacting on my speed factory?
So far my considerations are:
HGH (though pricier than I'd like)
HCG (a little PCT like cycle to just pump up natural production.
These 2 have the added benefit of likely positive impact on fertility/ sperm count.
Anything else with some anabolic effect that won't shut me down? Bear in mind that I'm not expecting testo-like effects, just some boost and gains.

Thanks all.
Spike

Hey bud.

I've wondered for a long time how you have been keeping, so great to hear the fun you have been having with your daughter. I'm even happier to hear she's faster than you, haha.

Hmm, anabolic side of things, you could go the cheaper route with MK 677, GW50156 is also an option but not really aligned to what you asking.

What is your Total / Free test, LH, FSH and E2 put of interest?

I'm in a similar boat as you, we did two IUI's, one empty sack, 9 weeks.. Allot of emotions that comes with this.

Mesterolone/Proviron in reasonable doses could be an option.
Given it has a 3% bioavailability, you could probably get away with using a low dose and maintain the added benefit of improving fertility.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2892728/

MPhilosopher wrote: Mesterolone/Proviron in reasonable doses could be an option.
Given it has a 3% bioavailability, you could probably get away with using a low dose and maintain the added benefit of improving fertility.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2892728/

You risk lowering FSH and fertility depending on your baseline levels.

00pump wrote:

MPhilosopher wrote: Mesterolone/Proviron in reasonable doses could be an option.
Given it has a 3% bioavailability, you could probably get away with using a low dose and maintain the added benefit of improving fertility.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2892728/

You risk lowering FSH and fertility depending on your baseline levels.

Yes all studies I have read show this, obviously any AAS at this stage should be prescribed through the doc working with him.

I cannot think of any other AAS that won't work against his goals.

I'm gonna take myself for some tests this week and see where I'm sitting...

I'm not sure I did bloods before actually, might have been just the wife that tested. I know I did spwrm counts and quality. I think those were all fine so no further tests were done.

Once I've done some tests I'll know whether boosting natural test is the best option.

00pump wrote:
I'm in a similar boat as you, we did two IUI's, one empty sack, 9 weeks.. Allot of emotions that comes with this.

It's a tough road to walk, especially difficult for my wife. So as badly as I want to run a cycle I don't want to cast any doubt on my commitment to the process.
Been reading some interesting studies on HGH supplementation for her actually, seems to show some positive effects in IVF.

Check this review out www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/9355...d-treatment#articles

Clomiphene may also be an option, especially if LH and FSH are not where they should be, or motility is an issue. Side note: clomiphene absolutely can be considered a PED.

I think bloods and the current semen analysis (as in a specific range) could better direct what drugs may be useful.

spike wrote:

00pump wrote:
I'm in a similar boat as you, we did two IUI's, one empty sack, 9 weeks.. Allot of emotions that comes with this.

It's a tough road to walk, especially difficult for my wife. So as badly as I want to run a cycle I don't want to cast any doubt on my commitment to the process.
Been reading some interesting studies on HGH supplementation for her actually, seems to show some positive effects in IVF.

Check this review out www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/9355...d-treatment#articles

Keep the discipline, technically you could take HCG and Menopur and be able to cycle, however I know where you head is at and you certainly don't want to take any chance. Also the menopur at the required dose is super expensive.

spike wrote:

00pump wrote:
I'm in a similar boat as you, we did two IUI's, one empty sack, 9 weeks.. Allot of emotions that comes with this.

It's a tough road to walk, especially difficult for my wife. So as badly as I want to run a cycle I don't want to cast any doubt on my commitment to the process.
Been reading some interesting studies on HGH supplementation for her actually, seems to show some positive effects in IVF.

Check this review out www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/9355...d-treatment#articles

It is interesting... It also aids in male fertility. What meds are they using with the IVF? clomid / menopur / ovitrelle ?

Welcome back Spike. I was wondering what happened to our old resident Chiro.

All the good natural stuff that I know of that boosts testosterone production is also supposed to improve sperm motility/semen quality as well, so it wouldn't hurt to add some in. Ashwaganda, Macuna pruriens, Tongkat ali, tribulus. They don't do all that mucb for muscle growth but unfortunately anything else that is significantly anabolic will have a negative affect on your fertility.

MK677 and GW501516 that Pump mentioned are great. I've used both many times. You'll see an improvement in recovery, sleep, fat loss and overall body composition. MK677 can cause a bit of water retention, but within 2 days after you come off it the water is gone. GW gives you amazing endurance in the gym without the need for stimulants, and helps when you aren't feeling motivated.

Hi, Injectable L-Carnitine it increases androgen recepror density and sensitivity. I have decent results when I take it with Anabolic Beast from TNT but I take the Red Tablets before bed as they contain the ZMA component. I also like to use Beta Ecdysterone from Nutritec.

Aromasin would also benedit you. I read studies showing it boosts IGF-1. Clomid an Nolvadex Reduce IGF-1. So Aromasin boosts Testosterone and IGF-1

Ipamorelin and cjc1295 with dac and running clenbuterol as an anabolic could work wonders for you..