Struggling with low libido

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17 Feb 2022 17:51 #226958 by emile6
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Hi guys I would just like to get some advice to get my libido up. I've been on a cycle of 250mg test e for about 12 weeks now and throughout the whole cycle my sex drive has been nonexistent. I don't want any sexual contact at all with my gf. She is also complaining that it feels like I dont care about her and I know its because of that. So I'd just like to know what I can take just to get my libido up.

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17 Feb 2022 18:02 #226959 by Empire
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are you using Arimidex with your cycle?
what does your diet look like?
how many days a week are your training?
how many hours a day are you sleeping?

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17 Feb 2022 18:08 - 17 Feb 2022 18:12 #226960 by 00pump
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emile6 wrote: Hi guys I would just like to get some advice to get my libido up. I've been on a cycle of 250mg test e for about 12 weeks now and throughout the whole cycle my sex drive has been nonexistent. I don't want any sexual contact at all with my gf. She is also complaining that it feels like I dont care about her and I know its because of that. So I'd just like to know what I can take just to get my libido up.


You still on the test? If so do you have blood work showing decent testosterone levels. That is the first place to start, while doing it check estrogen too.

Only then if the numbers are good, it may then be as simple as running a small dose of HCG during your cycle. The smallest amount of intertesticular testosterone is sometimes required by men to help with their libido. I am one of those guys, and I run HCG year round. It doesn't matter the amount of testosterone I can run, I don't get hyper sex drive without using HCG too.

Ofcouse it could be a complex finding if you suffering from mental health issues for whatever reasons.. Do you take any other medication? Do you use stimulants? Dopamine is super important in your sex drive and so is sleep. Having good dopamine levels also requires you to be eating well, are you cutting or doing anything crazy with a diet, or you eating well balanced / good amounts of protein?

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17 Feb 2022 21:24 #226965 by emile6
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Yes Liquid arimidex 25 drops a week the recommended dosage.
2400 calories
220g protein per day
About 120g of fats
400g of carbs only.
5 days a week training each muscle twice per week
8 hours of quality sleep.

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17 Feb 2022 21:27 #226966 by emile6
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Still on the test lowering to about 80mg for the next few weeks. I was considering taking hcg but read some sources saying it doesnt do much for libido that's why I was just making sure. Thanks.

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18 Feb 2022 09:08 - 18 Feb 2022 09:12 #226967 by Empire
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stop the arimadex. you more than likely tanking estrogen and that is causing the loss of libido.

estrogen is needed for so many things, libido, mood, growth, mental health, so i don't know the dosing of the drops, 25 drops is probably going to be about 2mg, which is going to be killing estrogen on 250mg of test.


personally, i don't use any ai's anymore, unless 2 weeks out from a show, and even last year, i wasn't on any aromatizing compounds so i didn't use any. if you are getting estrogen side effects from too much test, drop the test lower and add another compound.
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18 Feb 2022 09:55 - 18 Feb 2022 09:56 #226969 by 00pump
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Empire wrote: stop the arimadex. you more than likely tanking estrogen and that is causing the loss of libido.

estrogen is needed for so many things, libido, mood, growth, mental health, so i don't know the dosing of the drops, 25 drops is probably going to be about 2mg, which is going to be killing estrogen on 250mg of test.


personally, i don't use any ai's anymore, unless 2 weeks out from a show, and even last year, i wasn't on any aromatizing compounds so i didn't use any. if you are getting estrogen side effects from too much test, drop the test lower and add another compound.


On this point, now that I habe my bodyfat so low, I have no issues with my gyno or estrogen anymore. From large doses of an AI to low 5mg dose Aromasin..

If your estrogen is even slightly tanked, goodbye libido, mood, sleep, ability to control cravings..

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18 Feb 2022 09:57 #226970 by Empire
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00pump wrote:

Empire wrote: stop the arimadex. you more than likely tanking estrogen and that is causing the loss of libido.

estrogen is needed for so many things, libido, mood, growth, mental health, so i don't know the dosing of the drops, 25 drops is probably going to be about 2mg, which is going to be killing estrogen on 250mg of test.


personally, i don't use any ai's anymore, unless 2 weeks out from a show, and even last year, i wasn't on any aromatizing compounds so i didn't use any. if you are getting estrogen side effects from too much test, drop the test lower and add another compound.


On this point, now that I habe my bodyfat so low, I have no issues with my gyno or estrogen anymore. From large doses of an AI to low 5mg dose Aromasin..


well there we go! you killing it, well done pump.

and you know what it is like, tanking estrogen, your mrs will walk past and you wont even look twice.

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18 Feb 2022 10:00 #226971 by 00pump
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emile6 wrote: Still on the test lowering to about 80mg for the next few weeks. I was considering taking hcg but read some sources saying it doesnt do much for libido that's why I was just making sure. Thanks.


It 100 percent helps libido for those that it helps. Not everyone needs it, some do. Remember our bodies do not care for what is written on paper / studies and so forth. We are all so different..

If you would like to know some first hand replies, listen to some of the top Drs in the states and they say the same, some guys simply need a small amount of HCG with TRT for libido, but no its not documented, but I'm sure it will be in the coming years, all of this is still very new but more and more papers are getting written by well known names.

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18 Feb 2022 10:18 #226972 by 00pump
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Empire wrote:

00pump wrote:

Empire wrote: stop the arimadex. you more than likely tanking estrogen and that is causing the loss of libido.

estrogen is needed for so many things, libido, mood, growth, mental health, so i don't know the dosing of the drops, 25 drops is probably going to be about 2mg, which is going to be killing estrogen on 250mg of test.


personally, i don't use any ai's anymore, unless 2 weeks out from a show, and even last year, i wasn't on any aromatizing compounds so i didn't use any. if you are getting estrogen side effects from too much test, drop the test lower and add another compound.


On this point, now that I habe my bodyfat so low, I have no issues with my gyno or estrogen anymore. From large doses of an AI to low 5mg dose Aromasin..


well there we go! you killing it, well done pump.

and you know what it is like, tanking estrogen, your mrs will walk past and you wont even look twice.



Haha thanks man.

100 percent, 0 desire, regardless of your testosterone levels.

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24 Feb 2022 17:39 #227046 by Empire
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Any update on this? 7 days later so should be some change.

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07 Mar 2022 09:19 #227119 by Empire
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nothing on this?
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20 Apr 2022 11:33 #227258 by emile6
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Been taking the hcg for a while now and it definitely makes a huge impact. Libido went back to normal I started to care more and be empathetic aswell as not being very irritable all the time.

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20 Apr 2022 15:49 #227259 by Empire
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ok so your estrogen was clearly tanked. good to know its back to normal

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21 Apr 2022 12:26 #227268 by syntax
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Want amount of HCG is typically used for this by you guys?

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23 Apr 2022 19:03 #227274 by 00pump
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Low dose, there isn't a document amount that I'm aware of.

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24 Apr 2022 11:28 #227275 by Jacktuary
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So my endo gave me ovitrelle that has about 4 "vial"/"pen" in a box with each injection having 6500iu hcg.

I was instructed to use 1 "pen" a week with 2 injections. However i did a monday/wednesday/friday split. However the endo basically said i shouldnt go back since its "fine" but my levels drop after the hcg administration.

Pre bloodwork: 2022-Feb, yes the first ;)

73kg bodyweight

Total T: 5.8nmol/l
E2: <70 pmol/l
Free T: 130pmol/l

LH: <0.2
FSH: <0.5

0 gear since 2021-Aug, thus 7 months "off" gear

Post Treatment: 2022-Mar

72.1kg bodyweight

Total T: 27nmol/l
E2: 130 pmol/l
Free T: 300pmol/l


Currently still waiting for my 2022-Apr bloodwork.

But as far as I can "feel" libido wise. HCG IS GARBOUGE for libido. comparing it to testosterone.
it helped alot with testicular volume i must admit.


The endo was very addiment of taking both HCG AND CLOMID.
I cant do that, i hate clomid. id rather eat shit

so looks like pure hcg works...

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24 Apr 2022 19:01 #227289 by 00pump
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Use Tamoxifen, use Aromasin, use Letro, use Arimidex, you don't have to use clomid. But you will struggle to recover on hCG alone, you will go up and down. Yes ofcourse HCG is not the same as testosterone, this thread is based on low libido while on testosterone, not about comparing them.

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24 Apr 2022 20:48 #227291 by Muscleaddict
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Jacktuary wrote: The endo was very addiment of taking both HCG AND CLOMID.
I cant do that, i hate clomid. id rather eat shit

so looks like pure hcg works...


I'll spell it out so you can understand what your endo is not getting through to you. HCG works directly on the testes to produce testosterone. It does nothing for LH and FSH. You don't have anything wrong with your balls as evident by your T levels after using Ovitrelle.

Your LH of <0.2 is indicative of secondary hypogonadism which is caused by a problem with your hypothalamus or pituitary in your brain. In order to directly stimulate your hypothalamus to produce the hormone that tells your pituitary to make LH and FSH, so that they can signal to your balls to make T and sperm -> you need a SERM like Clomid or Tamoxifen.

Your idea to take just HCG is only a temporary fix. When you stop you still need to address the lack of LH and FSH production.
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