Blood work shows gear might be fake or very underdosed

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11 Feb 2024 12:11 #229637 by xxwolfxx
Howzit gents.

Got my bloods done recently after a 40 odd week blast (alternated compound every 16 weeks or so) and the results were surprising. 

At the time my blood was taken, I had been on 900mg Test E p/w, 500mg Masteron p/w and 450mg Tren A p/w. Prior to this, I always ran Test fairly high between 750 to 850mg p/w.

The results showed that my total Test is at >1500 ng/dl and my E2 at 31 ng/dl. Given that my Test dosage for the past 40 weeks was on the higher end of the spectrum and that I had been running it non stop at various doses since April 2021, I expected my total Test level to be MUCH higher.

My first suspicion was that my supplier has been selling me either fake gear or extremely watered down stuff. The brand he pushes is OC Labs and a know a large group of people from my town that source from him for a long time. 

For the above reasons, I want to know whether the gear is underdosed so I can change my supplier or whether there are other factors which could have infuenced my total testosterone level.

Side note: I am running tren A for the 1st time for the past 7 weeks and honsetly expected a lot more severe side effects as per the general consensus online and amongst the lifting circle. The only sides I really encountered was insomnia and increased aggression/lack of patience, being loud and hyper dominant at the office, fighting with my gf every day and hooking up with fat chicks for the sake of it. Other than that there was no night sweats or tren cough or any of those other weird mental sides. I usually get severe paranoia, anxiety and depression on deca though.

What are your thoughts guys? Is the gear underdosed? Your input will be highly appreciated.

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11 Feb 2024 12:44 #229638 by Empire
You got 0 stats on your post as to what your bf %, age weight and or training style is.

Your gear isnt not fake, oc labs is a reputable brand and you clearly are from kzn as is it big down here and you got probably get from one of the guys who pushes it and it is a well known and reputable brand.

When was your last shot prior to blood test?

Your e2 that low shows you masteron is real, masteron is used to treat estrogen based breast cancer so it is known to lower e2, so wow an e2 of 31 is indicative of masteron being real.

Your mental side effects are common of tren..meaning your tren is real.

Your blood with that course will be like glue most likely and blood pressure through the roof.

You also have nothing else listed, like shbg aswell.

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11 Feb 2024 13:15 #229639 by xxwolfxx
Thank you, Empire.

Weight: 88kgs to 91kgs

Bf%: plus minus 10 to 12%
Age: 29

Height: 175cm

Training style: Hardcore bodybuilding - PPL - high intensity, balls to the wall but proper form - one day on one day off (total 4 days p/w 2 to 3 hour sessions)

Diet: same thing every day I.e breast, basmati rice, broccoli... eggs, oats, milk, banana and have introduced lean beef mince and steak into the mix recently. And also olive oil for cooking no sunflower oil at all.

Supplements: omega 3, zinc, cream of rice, dextrose.

Medicine: disprin 500mg every 2 days, seroquel if insomnia is severe, otherwise codeine syrup daily as a sleep and pain aid.

The doctor that did my bloods did it for free as she is an intern at a government hospital and the results don't show SBGH as far as I can see.

She also mentioned my liver and kidneys took a bit of a hit and requires detox and recovery. This is also surprising as I was under the impression that injectables are liver friendly unlike orals and I don't run orals.

She also said my e2 is very high and my test is kinda low considering the length of exogenous usage. This is another reason I sought a second opinion on this forum. Who knows gear better than gear heads right? Interns probably cross reference findings with normal non lifter people who have never used gear, and not with enhanced athletes, which is why her opinion was off I presume.

Thank you again.

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11 Feb 2024 13:21 #229640 by xxwolfxx
Forgot to add. My last shot of everything (test tren mast) prior to bloods was 48 hours earlier.

My last shot of tren and mast was an hour prior.

I pin tren and mast ED and test tren mast all together on Sundays and Tuesdays.

I do it this way because my test is a long ester and the others are short esters.

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11 Feb 2024 13:40 #229641 by Empire
You are using 20mg per kg of gear per week basically, and tren is toxic as fuck, it will fuck up liver and kidneys especially.

Your blood will be viscous as fuck due to 10mg per kg of Testosterone! And being on gear for 40 weeks straight is like driving your car in 2nd gear hitting the limiter the whole time and expecting your engine(liver and kidneys) not to take strain..

You really need to do more research before using a course with those doses and compounds.

What is you actual calorie intake per day, right now that is a thumb suck.
What is your egfr reading and your blood pressure?
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11 Feb 2024 13:42 #229642 by Empire
Also coedine cough syrup as a sleep aid? You clearly are very miss informed about how to do things. You do realize that coedine is incredibly addictive?
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