Vascular problems

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27 Apr 2009 20:03 #12889 by hotshot
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I was recently on a cycle of anavar (60mg p/day) and testen (500mg p/week) for 6 weeks and then switched to test prop and npp (150mg EOD each). I was also cycling Heat and clen, 2 weeks of each. The one thing I might have done wrong was that I ended up using the var for 8 weeks instead of stopping at 6 weeks.

Something happened that I lost circulation in my left foot, which was apparently caused by a blocked artery in my ankle. I saw 4 docs in total and they all attributed it to steroid use and told me to stop what I was using to see if it came right. It did, but most other people i have spoken to are quite surprised that it could have been caused by steroids, especially the ones that I was using.

Has anybody here ever experienced this or heard of it or are they just using steroids as a "scapegoat"

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28 Apr 2009 00:42 #12896 by Lesa
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is it not good to use Anavar for longer than 6 weeks? I thought its not as toxic as other orals

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28 Apr 2009 07:35 #12900 by acidkidsa
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If your circulation stopped in your left foot , I take it that means your arteries became inflamed??

I dont know if var can do that? But running Clen 2 weeks then heat 2 weeks without giving you body a break could have caused it I reckon.

Or even everything you were taking contributed to it at least.

I have never heard of juice been the cause. I am no docter though.

What I do know is , I get the same thing from smoking to many smokes.
This is called Buerger disease and stopping smoking fixes it in no time.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buerger%27s_disease

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28 Apr 2009 13:19 #12942 by farook
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maybe you hit a nerve or bloodvessel when you were injecting and caused a blood clot or something

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28 Apr 2009 21:31 #12968 by myotest1
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It could have been caused by the juice but not conclusively based on the time frame you were on. Were you off before this a long time or what,

What can happen is that the testosterones(heavy androgens) are normally the cause of thickening your blood, not normally a prob alone but the test also elevates your bad cholesterol, so what probably happened is that you had plaque(cholesterol) accumulation in that particular artery combined with high bad cholesterol and you have a major accident waiting to happen, the docs would have normally prescribed blood thinning anti clotting meds to combat this and dissolve the clot aswell as make your blood thinner.

How old are you, mid fortys and older? Just a guess but if you are in your thirties be aware maybe you are prone to this happening again, generally speaking most males above fifty should as a rule of thumb take say 30mg /day asprin as it thins the blood and stops potential heart attacks/strokes etc from occuring , its just good health practise especially if your cholesterol levels are elevated.

Stay away from test and get yourself checked out!

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29 Apr 2009 06:55 #12970 by jackrabbit1
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Thats why i use ECA!!! It thins the blood!:laugh:

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29 Apr 2009 20:56 #13006 by myotest1
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ECA will help while you on it from the aspirin, but you cant be on it all the time bra,....... receptor down reg.... unfortunate but have to cycle.

TAKE one third small disprin every second day!

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29 Apr 2009 21:31 #13013 by jackrabbit1
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I use one Heat for a workout boster. Fridays 2. Skip weekend and by Monday i get the same effect as the monday before.
Hitting the Ketotifen again from today as well.

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29 Apr 2009 21:55 #13018 by hotshot
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Myo, in response to your post, I turned 34 yesterday, so nowhere near mid forties. You are correct, the doc put me on blood thinning meds and booked me off work for 2 weeks to avoid major surgery. This was my first cycle after a break of about a year, so I wasn't over doing it.

Now the million dollar question, should I steer clear of gear forever?

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30 Apr 2009 07:39 #13020 by acidkidsa
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I wouldnt say stay off gear all together.

Maybe just decrease the amount you usually take and frequency?

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30 Apr 2009 08:49 #13027 by Empire
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go to the pharmacy and ask them for cardiac/ baby asprin...will do the trick

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30 Apr 2009 08:57 #13029 by myotest1
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Yeah thats the one my old man takes it daily!

Forget the name though!

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30 Apr 2009 10:27 #13037 by jackrabbit1
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If yore on Wafarin and the like you had better discuss the home remedies with the Doc first. Mine told me to lay off the disprin.

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30 Apr 2009 21:11 #13089 by myotest1
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HOTSHOT MAKE SURE you get full cholesterol and blood work done .

That is the only way you can be sure about your existing medical status.

If its all clear try to stay awy from the heavy androgens like test rather be cautious and on the safe side bra.

Myo

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30 Apr 2009 21:26 #13090 by hotshot
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I'll have the bloodwork done before my next cycle. It will be really crap not doing test but I reckon that's good advice. I guess I could just do tbol, var or winny. What else would you recommend as a cycle without test?

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30 Apr 2009 21:44 #13092 by myotest1
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I think you should look at hitting like three pro viron a day throughout and for about 3 weeks post, with all normal pct.

Utilise as much natural test boosters as possible, preferably ones with TRIBULIS AND ZMA etc jsut to keep you on an even keel and the proviron will keep you rock solid.

I currently use NI-AGRA testoboost with excellent results as i am currently clean and running on own testes. lol Thanks dad!

Cool TAKE IT EASY ,....MYO

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30 Apr 2009 21:57 #13093 by hotshot
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Thanks bud, appreciate the input

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