help please

Intended on a dbol and test e cycle so my test was a little late arriving so I went ahead and started my dbol a couple days turned into almost 3 weeks before my test arrived. So its here now but I have almost 3 weeks in on the dbol.Should I go ahead and take the test now or just scrap the whole project for another time. Any opinion would be greatly appreciated other than the obvious to wait until all your gear is here before you start.

You can start taking the Testosterone now and stop the Dianabol in about a week or so. It will be a complete waste if you abort the entire cycle now. I just hope you already have your PCT on hand.

How much D-bol do you have left? What amount do you take per day? How long did you plan the D-bol cycle to be? And test? How much for how long?

Maybe we can come up with some cycle for you, so you still have some results...

Yup-could still be saved.....

First off I'd like to thank everyone for there answers. I'm happy to see there are info sites out there like this one that when a question is asked other members don't start flaming on the noobies. With that being said I went ahead and started my test last week, all's well. I have on hand lots of tamox and clomid and even some hcg. Now I've never used the hcg before and wether or not I do I'll cross that bridge nearing the end. I'm not taking the tamox through the cycle but if something comes up I'll start using it. I haven't seemed to have any problems with gyno before but theres always a first, right. Also I dont seem to have any serious dht hairloss related issues either, but heres the question. Dont come down to hard on me for this one but here it is. I'm also taking saw palmetto for dht and maca root for estrogen, now these are herbs and wether they work or not is anyones guess. But has anyone heard of people using this through the cycle and does anyone see any problems with it other than the stuff probably doesn't work?? It's probably more of a case of if it makes me feel better than good, (phycological thing). Thanks again,. Oh and doctari sorry about not getting back on your question but heres the quick answer. I planned the dbol for 4 weeks(but I have enough for a long time) and not an overly strong dose of 25 mg a day but thats because I do seem to hold a lot of water with it and anadrol. Also it almost seems that one month on d and my body doesn't do a lot more responding to it so its good to add something different. The test e i was planning on 7 weeks 500mg week split twice. Which makes my total cycle about 10 weeks. I do have access to more test so if I wont I can extend it a little. but I'm comfortable with the 10 weeks. I also have t400 and sus 250 sitting here but I thought I'd save that for my next cycle. Also on my next cycle I'd like to use a different oral any suggestions? Tired of reading yet,lol.

And I'm sure everyone is very busy so dont feel obligated to answer my questions because they are off the wall. Sorry about the spelling in the previous post,ooops. I was kind of in a rush.

Well. if ur running sus its prob not all bad. Run the Dbol into the first 10 days of Injection then stop the Dbol. Then run the sus for 6 weeks or so-its should take about 3 weeks to clear-if you want to run some more Dbols in the last 2 weeks before clearance date-then that should be fine, but its not necicary.

Do what MXT suggests - that's a good suggestion from him. Just stop your saw palmetto ASAP! That stuff blocks all your testosterone receptors - not only in the prostate. Saw palmetto has extensively been tested in phytomedicine - and it does work!

Why do you want to change from D-bol orals to something else? What were you planning to use next?

A tip you might consider next time you are running a cycle. I see you use 500mg test per week. Start your cycle off with Sustanon 250 and repeat it every 2-3rd day for the first 10 days, then stop it. On your 7'th day of your cycle start your first shot of test cypionate or enanthate - they work just as good, but are much cheaper to run. Your Sustanon is a mixture of 4 different esthers, some working very quickly, some medium, but the long acting part is not enough per dosage to sustain the level you are trying to obtain. This is not out of a point of effecacy, but rather from a fincial point of view.

Doctari wrote:

A tip you might consider next time you are running a cycle. I see you use 500mg test per week. Start your cycle off with Sustanon 250 and repeat it every 2-3rd day for the first 10 days, then stop it. On your 7'th day of your cycle start your first shot of test cypionate or enanthate - they work just as good, but are much cheaper to run. Your Sustanon is a mixture of 4 different esthers, some working very quickly, some medium, but the long acting part is not enough per dosage to sustain the level you are trying to obtain. This is not out of a point of effecacy, but rather from a fincial point of view.

Good point, but Doctari / Mx-T what do you think about mixing a faster acting ester with the slower one and using that for the first 2-3 weeks before dropping the faster one? Or using the fast one as a kick start before gradually moving to the slower one.

I'm particularly interested in doing that with Prop and Testen and also Nandro-Prop and Deca.

The plan is to eliminate the problem of slow esters, only starting to become effective in about 4-6 weeks and also avoiding having to use too many injection sites with a fast ester-only cycle.

BTW: I hate all orals, except for Anavar; so a Dianabol kick start is out of the question.

Well if money is no issue id run prop all the time that would sort out most issues and if I was really hardcore id run Suspension only....ouch...anyway. I think running ur long esters upfront combined with a fast acting test like suspension is the way to go then 4 weeks or so into the cycle is start running Prop only- that should be pretty nice. Same goes with ur other substances Run ur Tren E's first then switch to Tren A latter, etc etc, But whos got money for that. I think ill put a dream cycle together and post it-prob wont work out less then R10k thou....just for s@#ts and giggles

I think he said he was running test e in which case I would run the dbol another three weeks, this bridges the gap to the testen kick in which happens about week 4, and doesn't go over 6 weeks of dbol recommended for the liver.

If you are running sust, then don't worry, it kicks in nicely by itself in my experience...


For long ester test cycles, and short 4 weeks of orals, or test prop in the beginning helps you feel like you didn't waste your money...

And I wouldn't run Testen 7weeks even if I did 3 weeks of dbol before... Try get another 3 weeks out of it to maximise the gains...