Higher dosed NPP? PGW?

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07 Jul 2008 18:20 #4817 by jackrabbit1
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I see NPP can be injected e4d wthout hasstles.
www.steroid.com/Durabolin.php
How true is this?
If so i'd rather use NPP than Decca with TestE and EQ in my next cycle.
The only problem is that NPP is dosed at 150mg/ml. I'd like to get to 400-600 / week. That would mean 2ml NPP/1ml TestE/ 3/4 ml EQ = 3 3/4 ml twice a week. ouch!

BTW what ester is attached to PGW EQ?

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07 Jul 2008 19:12 #4819 by admin
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NPP is actually best used with Prop ED or EOD, but I have also used it with Testen... going to do that again with my next cycle.

3 ¾ ml is not that bad to inject twice a week... I have done 5 ml 3 times per week with no big issues.

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07 Jul 2008 20:55 #4821 by Precision
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Hi Bud, durabolin was only produced at 25mg/ml and 50mg/ml back in the day, there is no possible way for the phenylpropionate ester to hold at a higher concentration than 150mg/ml. The aim with short esters is to maintain stable plasma levels therefor EOD shots are essential with prop and phenylprop

Eq's ester is boldenone undecyclenate bro.

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08 Jul 2008 06:52 #4823 by jackrabbit1
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Thanks guys,
I just came off a great 14 week NPP/Prop EOD cycle.
I understand that to keep plasma levels constant it is suggested to inject decca twice a week, even though you only really have to inject once a week. Isn't it also the case with NPP?
If this chart ( www.steroid.com/Deca.php ) is true, it should be OK to inject NPP every 4 days before a real drop in plasma levels is experienced. Seeing that blood levels of NPP is DOUBLE that of decca quick after administration i would really like to use NPP! but i've been injecting EOD for the last 7 months and my ass feels like a pin-ushion so i would really like to stretch the time between shots a bit.
If you had to pick between Decca and NPP for twice a week shots knowing that, plasma levels wont be all that stable (+- 33% fluctuation) for NPP but higher than decca for the entire 4 days, which would you choose?

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08 Jul 2008 09:17 #4826 by Oupiel
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Re. NPP & Tren, both are 19-nor derivatives as is Deca, does that mean that to be effective / optimal, NPP & Tren should be run for 12 weeks minimum?

or due to the shorter esters of NPP & Tren they are good on a 6 - 8 week cycle.

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08 Jul 2008 10:16 #4831 by Precision
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Its like comparing oranges to apples bro, Phenylpropionate and decanoate are two very different esters.

Decanoate half life is 16/17days, thus, shots twice a week is sufficient, where as phenylpropionate has a half life of 4days, peaking at 36-48 hour mark and dropping by day 4, therefor EOD/ monday-thurs-sunday shots are essential, i would personally recommend the former, 1ml eod is the way forward

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08 Jul 2008 10:19 #4832 by Precision
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Rotate your injection site's, propionate is fantastic for lagging body parts, 2ml prop + 1ml NPP - tricep heads moday, biceps wednesday, shoulders friday, quads sunday, and so forth.

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08 Jul 2008 10:24 #4833 by jackrabbit1
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Precision, maybe i'll just have to incorporate the quads again - eek!

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08 Jul 2008 10:33 #4834 by jackrabbit1
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Now that i've lost so much fat skin on my legs are really thin and i can see all the veins etc. Its scattered ALL OVER. How do i miss them?
The membrane on the muscle is also really hard - how do you guys get past it easily?
I've never tried any site apart from glutes and quads - will google on the rest to mark the spot.

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08 Jul 2008 11:16 #4835 by Netro
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I had a thread going on injection sites with some nice links, just search the forum and a power response from Precision. If you inject often you have to have more sites than just ass and quad. You are going to build up allot of scar tissue there and it will take a long time to go away.

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08 Jul 2008 19:23 #4863 by jackrabbit1
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Thanks. Will do - got some sar tissue already. any suggestions to help clear it up a bit?

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08 Jul 2008 22:42 #4870 by Netro
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Bio Oil maybe

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