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15 Jan 2008 20:20 #567 by ogre
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i started MxT bulking cycle 2 10 days ago,i was 113kgs when i started presently 119kgs and getting f ing strong .
So thanks seems to be working .

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16 Jan 2008 10:07 #577 by admin
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Yeah, that's a nice cycle. But it might be too short for some people.

I'm also working on sample cycles for PGW products and other anabolics that are easy to obtain in SA. I'll probably add them to the site in a few weeks as I'm first going on a little vacation.

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16 Jan 2008 10:11 #579 by ogre
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that would be great ,i have first comp on 28th june so need to know how long aftrer this course to go off for and what to follow up with.
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17 Jan 2008 13:28 #583 by MxT
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Its a great cycle. in and out. U ussually take a month break from it then repeat......but i think for ur goals u wont be able to fit a another one in safely before u strat cutting

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17 Jan 2008 22:29 #598 by ogre
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ok so how do i come in shredded i know diet plays a big part ,but i want to get a good cutting course in what would you suggest.

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18 Jan 2008 08:14 #603 by MxT
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Its not so much the course really..... I like a phased aproach lets say I am 16 weeks out. Asume im eating clean already but at a 2 high caloric level to lose BF. I never cardio offseason. So id start doing cardio for the first 4 of the 16 weeks. 5-6 times a week. Then after the first 4 weeks I start cutting calories in a controlled manner as well as adding anabolic support- i will also start with an ECA based fat cutter as well. I will run this right through to comp date altough the anabolics will differ. 6 weeks out ill start running T3 as well- i never exceed 6 weeks. For the first 6 weeks of anabolic support Id run test E with EQ and Winny. After 6 weeks id drop the Test E and replace with Test Prop and if cash allows Ill ad Tren or Masteron. U need to work out someting that works for you. i have seen guys get shredded in 8 weeks and i have seen guys diet for 4 months and their abs still looked sad. Realy depends on ur body. But this works for me . there are prob 20 other approaches. I also tdont go overboard with the dosages since ur in caloric deficit ur very unlickely to grow-altuog i usually pick up between 3-5kg in the first 4 weeks of anabolic support. Two weeks out from comp date you should be looking the way u want to be looking BF wise and the last 10 days should be spent focusing on getting your carbloading correct as well as your water levels.

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19 Jan 2008 13:05 #612 by ogre
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ive used prop once before and it literally put me on my back for a week ,ive never suffered pain like that before lol.What is the secret to using prop.

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20 Jan 2008 11:50 #617 by MxT
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What prop did u use? Was it on its own- if ur mixing it with Tren and EQ it should be fine

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20 Jan 2008 13:45 #622 by Doctari
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Something you can try - I use it this way for painful injections. I even use this every day in my practice. Take 0,5 - 1cc of 2% Lignocaine solution and add that to the contents of your syringe. This will ease the pain of Winstrol, Props, ect. There is no contra-indication to use a water-based preperation and oil-based in the same syringe. Only time you should be careful, is when you draw up substances and they immediately react inside the syringe and products start presipitating. Voltaren for instance, does this with most other products added to the syringe.
2% Lignocaine solutions come in bottles of 20cc's. It is the same stuff Dentists use - that product is called Xylotox and comes in 1.8cc ampules

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21 Jan 2008 14:19 #628 by MxT
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Now that info I can use.! Whish i had tried that when I was running PGF- eina

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23 Jan 2008 20:49 #683 by ogre
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lol ya ,i could not believe that 1ml could almost cripple me,thought it was just a bad jab ,did next 2 in the other cheek.I was poked

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25 Jan 2008 11:54 #719 by Netro
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Just a question around the Xylotox, it contains Lignocaine Hydrochloride 20mg; Noradrenaline and made by BRAND REMOVED . Been doing some research and it's a Schedule 4 med, so you will need a prescription and not over the counter stuff. Is this the only way to make painful injections not so painful? Another "trick" I have heard of is to add B-12 to winstrol inparticular and apparently this helps, I have never personally tried it, I always just push it in real slow and it seems ok for me, also massage the area till the burn subsides a little. :S I will get some pricing around the Xylotox and see. There are also 2 that BRAND REMOVED makes 1.)Xylotox® L and 2.)Xylotox® (Lignocaine) 2% E80A (Adrenalin) 1.8ml, are they both ok to use or just the the second one? Have not checked entensively, just a quick google.

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25 Jan 2008 23:37 #725 by Doctari
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Do't use the Xylotox with Adrenaline, rather use the 20cc vial of Lignocaine HCl-Fresenius 1% - much safer. You don't want to mess around wiyh Adrenaline....

Unfortuanetely it is a schedule 4 - but is that really a big problem for resourcefull guys like us b/builders??

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28 Jan 2008 14:46 #744 by kraz
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Too true doctari ;)

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28 Jan 2008 17:02 #748 by Empire
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doc u into writing perscriptions for money ;) just kidding...hehe...that would just be unethical

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28 Jan 2008 20:51 #750 by Doctari
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Nah! - you don't have enough money to coax me into that! Just joking... Try a pharmacist that supplies "stuff" to body builders - they can supply you with this. Very important with lignocaine - make sure that this stuff is NEVER injected intra-venously.

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04 Feb 2008 20:48 #887 by Batman
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Well I learnt something new 2day !! Thanks Doctari I am definately going to try this!

I can never use any of the high dose prop's because they cripple me, and the volume that needs to be injected of the 50mg Jurox one is just ridiculous

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