Glucophage

Can you use it in a bulking cycle. What are the benefits and side effects of this substance. I know that it increases muscle glucogen. How do you use this substance?

Would appreciate any advice

Hi dbol,

Yes, you can use it in a bulking cycle. You can have a look at this sample cycle that MxT wrote: Bulking cycle 2

How do you use the substance? Do you take one 500mg tab after training or do you take it during the day?

I use half a 850mg after training and the other half 12 hours later

Sorry for all my stupid questions, but what are the benifits of using glucophage, i cant seem to find any info in the internet regarding the bodybuilding benidits of this substance.

It will increase your insulin sensitivity-thus ur cells will be able to ue ur natural insulin better to shuttle nutriants. pretty cool stuff-also tends to lean you at by getting rid of water. I thinks is pretty cool stuff. Just google Metaformin-ul get some info

I have spoken to a pro, and he used he's slin only on mon , wens and fridays. Other days he used glucophage. Said it worked like a dream.

I asume it safer than using slin. Has it got the same effects on muscle size as slin? Would you use it on it's own?<br><br>Post edited by: dbol, at: 2007/08/14 16:41

Much much safer than Slin. Not the same effects on muscle size-give it a run for 2 weeks or so-u really only start seeing the true potential of the product afetr 8 weeks plus

Yeah it has to be run over a period of time. I can not see that it would really have any sides if you run it for an couple of weeks and spike with dextrose after work out......

I started taking glucophage last night, but it makes me very sleepy and sluggish. I took it post workout with whey and glucose. The feeling passed about 2 hours after it started. Is it a hypoglycemic side effect?

Fact:
Glucophage = metformin. Anti-diabetic drug used in insulin-resistant diabetes. Sensitizes your own cell's insulin receptors in order to render better uptake of glucose. Used mostly in obese individuals, usually those persons fall into the category of insulin resistance. Works for 8 hours. Usual dosage 500mg 3 xpd, but that's for diabetics. Can cause hypoglycaemia, so still be careful. Many generics on the market, but they cost the same as the original package product. The latter is enteric coated and gives less GI upset and diarrhoea. I would say for body building, 500mg post workout after ingestion of atleast 40gr whey prot + 60gr mixture of simple to complex carbs within the first hour, should do the trick. Be careful to use in conjunction with insulin, it will easily lead to hypoglycaemia. In my personal opinion, pioglitazone(Actos) at dosage of 7,5mg in the mornings, is a better choice than metformin. It works for full 24h, the chance of hypoglycaemia is minimal, it has less to none GI side effects, and Cipla just luanched a 15mg per tab generic.
Remember, knowledge is power - make sure you guys know what you are swallowing!

Well Said Doc most of these Clowns out there giving advice on taking insulin or glucophage have no clue what the are taking about. Its good to have a Medical Doctor on board.

I guess it takes one to know one-clowns that is

Only a clown would reply back with a message like that.

lol-and i guess its easy to criticise peoples opinions when it’s to difficult to be original and have your own

An opinion is like an asshole everyone has one. The difference is, insulin is extremely dangerous even school boys are abusing it now. Giving your opinion regarding insulin in my opinion is deadly. Seen as I have been working with steroids insulin and GH for 15 years and with a lot of the top athletes in the country I have developed a serious level of respect for chemicals and the athletes who I work with. The Dr gave sound advice which I think is a serious contribution to the site and to the education of the users of this good site. Remember Knowledge is Power Opinions are Dangerous!

Yes they are-and we are NOT talking about Slin here are we- which I would NEVER advise anybody to ever take-we are talking about Metaformin-which you really would need to make a serious effort to try and overdose on. Its like comparing aspirin and and Morphine HCL for pain medication. i do agree that playing with you bodies suger levels are very dangerous but I do not consider Metaformin as a dangerous substance-and I believe the doc wont either. So IF someone on the forum read that SLIN is not dangerous-I appologise-it is and it will kill you in the end. On the other hand 500-100mg of Glucphage after training followed by some carbs and protein and a lot of water( so that you dont get the (sh#$s) wont kill you. But as in all cases when working with you body be carefull.

Dudes, you won't go into a hypo as easily with metformin, as with insulin, it is still possible, even at doses as low as 500mg per day. Dosages for diabetics are not very easy to work out - it all depends on the patient's weight and where he \&quot;stands\&quot; in his diabetic disease. I, for instance, will not start a diabetic weighing 50kgs on more than 500mg metformin initially, but for a chap weighing 120kgs+, its a different story..
So, to Mr MXT - you may \&quot;need\&quot; a dosage of a 1000mg/24h according to your weight, but Mr ChemicalG may not! Dosages working for one, could easily be harmful for the next. ALWAYS, when experimenting with something new you have not used before, start at the lowest dose possible, slowly titrate upwards until you experience early side effects, then just-just cut back on your dosage and you have reached dosages which will be tolerable individually.

Now, when you chaps have returned from the \&quot;circus\&quot;, how about asking me an interesting question on something you would love to know more about??