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21 Jan 2008 14:20 #629 by Moerhond
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Hi
I am not gona beat around the bush.
There is probably a chance that you guys are going to tell me not to take it.
Or wait like 3 years before I take it.
But the truth is I am going to take it.
I want to do my 1st cycle in June2008.
So the more info I can get now the beter.
I want to do this right without hurting myself.
Now I downloaded a cycle that I want to use.
I want your opinion on this cycle.
Then please tell me when to inject.Do I do it everyday before gym?Or do i only inject like once a week?
I also read that the life span of the injectables in your system is longer than the oral but still not long enough to inject only once a week..that where my convusion comes in.
If anyone can tell me how ot when the whole thing ill be very happy.
And also where to get it everything.

Here is the cycle that I downloaded.

Novice Cycle #2-4

Week Supplement/ MG/ Week Supplement/ MG/ Week Supplement/ MG Supplement/ MG
1 Testosterone Cypionate/400 - 500 mg Equipoise/400 - 500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
2 Testosterone Cypionate/400 - 500 mg Equipoise/400 - 500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
3 Testosterone Cypionate/400 - 500 mg Equipoise/400 - 500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
4 Testosterone Cypionate/400 - 500 mg Equipoise/400 - 500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
5 Testosterone Cypionate/400 - 500 mg Equipoise/400 - 500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
6 Testosterone Cypionate/400 - 500 mg Equipoise/400 - 500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
7 Testosterone Cypionate/400 - 500 mg Equipoise/400 - 500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
8 Testosterone Cypionate/400 - 500 mg Equipoise/400 - 500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
9 Testosterone Cypionate/400 - 500 mg Equipoise/400 - 500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
10 Testosterone Cypionate/400 - 500 mg Equipoise/400 - 500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
11 Testosterone Cypionate/400 - 500 mg Equipoise/400 - 500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
12 Testosterone Cypionate/400 - 500 mg Equipoise/400 - 500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
13 Nolvadex/20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
14 Nolvadex/20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
15 Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
16 Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
17 Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day


Clomid Therapy

Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6 Day 7
Week 1 300 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg
Week 2 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg
Week 3 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg


Notes About Novice Cycle #4: This is a very simple beginner cycle that will add a good amount of new mass if you have never cycled before.

Warnings About Novice Cycle #4: Nolvadex should be kept on hand in case you start to feel signs of gyno throughout the cycle.


Thanx for the help to everyone.

Regards
Moerhond

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21 Jan 2008 15:55 #631 by Netro
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K, well since you dead set that this is the way to go for you then I guess all we can do is offer guidance and hope you follow it.
First, we need some stats from you and we can advise around those as they are also a fair indication of dosages etc.
Comments at a glance:
Do you have a diet planned around this?
PCT needs some looking at.
Not too found of depotrone for a first timer as gains keep is very difficult.
Duration is really long for a beginner, I would not go over 10 weeks and that's max, but it's also a personal opinion (rather safe than sorry)

If mass is your focus I would recommend your basic mass cycle, a foundation of test and deca.
Equi I would leave till a later stage when you are a little more experienced in the AAS scene.

So supply some stats and we can comment around that and see if we can give you something you happy with.

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21 Jan 2008 16:00 #632 by Netro
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You female Moerhond? or is that a typo?

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21 Jan 2008 16:30 #633 by Moerhond
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I am male....
Just typed a shit load of stuff and my net kicked me...
I need to do it agian.LOL

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21 Jan 2008 17:21 #635 by Moerhond
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Ok what kind of info do you need from me?

Age: 24
Weight: 78Kg
Weight before I wana juice: 85-90Kg
Height: 1.14m

To be honest I have no PCT...never even new you had to do that.

My diet at the moment is this...
--Oats in the morning.
--3 Meals during the day
--Consisting of - Chicken and rice / Tuna and pasta both include vegies.
--1 Meal at night that can be anything from steak to mince ect.
I also use Alpha Nitrox and Muscle Fuel Dianamic from USN

I have no diet worked out for the cycle period.

Ok this cycle might be a bit long.
Do you have any cycles I can have a look at.

My workout routine:
Day1: Upperbody
--Chest
--Bi Ceps
--Shoulders
Day2: Cardio 20min + Abs
--Ab Machine
--Crunshes
--Side Crunshes
Day3: Lower Body
--Qauds
--Caffs
Day4: Cardio 20Min + Lower back
Day5: Upperbody
--Back
--Tri Ceps
Day6: Cardio 20min + Abs

This is what I am using at the moment.It seems to be working as I picked up 4-5kg in 3weeks.

Please let me know if there is anything else you need form me.

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21 Jan 2008 17:50 #636 by MxT
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Ja i dont know thats a "novce'' cycle. Gram of gear a week.... Anyway. i think a good first cycle wpould be some Test and D bol with some Nolva and HCG. 400mg tets and 30mg of Dbol for the first 4 weeks. cycle length 8 weeks or so. If u dont grow on that....

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21 Jan 2008 18:00 #637 by Moerhond
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What about the Lean Mass cycle on this site.
What kind of gains could I get from that?
And how much juice would be needed for the cycle?
And about what price would it be?

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21 Jan 2008 19:54 #638 by Moerhond
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Ok how about this Cycle
Entry Level Cycle A
Item Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Week 5 Week 6
Deca 300mg/week 300mg/week 300mg/week 300mg/week 300mg/week 300mg/week
Dianabol 20mg/day 20mg/day 20mg/day 20mg/day 20mg/day 20mg/day
Clomid

Week 7 Week 8 Week 9 Week 10 Week 11
Deca 300mg/week 300mg/week
Dianabol 20mg/day 20mg/day
Clomid 25mg/day 25mg/day

Notes
Clomid should be used for 5 days followed by a 5 day break and then for another 5 days.
Provide for at least 2 - 3 month breaks between cycles.

Products Needed:
Item Units needed
Deca 300mg 1
Dianabol 10mg x 50 3
Clomid x 50mg x 10 1


But I am not to big on orals.
Can I change the D-bol with something else?

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21 Jan 2008 19:58 #639 by Moerhond
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Ok sorry that I am posting so much.
Just trying to find the write cycle...

lets say this is option B

Entry Level Cycle C
Item Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Week 5
Depotrone 250mg/week 250mg/week 250mg/week 250mg/week 250mg/week
Sustanone 250mg/week 250mg/week 250mg/week 250mg/week 250mg/week

Week 6 Week 7 Week 8 Week 9 Week 10
Depotrone 250mg/week 250mg/week 250mg/week 250mg/week 250mg/week
Sustanone 250mg/week 250mg/week 250mg/week 250mg/week 250mg/week

Notes
Provide for at least 2 - 3 month breaks between cycles.

Products Needed:
Item Units needed
Depotrone 10ml 1
Sustanone 1ml 10
or
Nomasust 10ml 1


But what do you use for PCT?

And can someone clear up this mg crap for me.
Its not making sense.
Like in my pre post.
300mg/weekbut the amount you need is 300mg?
WTF...

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21 Jan 2008 22:45 #641 by Doctari
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At 1.14m in length and weighing 78kgs! Now, that's what I call impressive stats!!

I think you should reconsider your dosages. I just think for a novice, you are a bit on the high side. Look at what MXT suggested - trust me, he is quite good at giving advice on cycle content and dosages.
I'm just missing the Pregnyl from your PCT??

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21 Jan 2008 22:49 #642 by Moerhond
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Sorry man.
That was a typo...
I am 1.74m

Pregnyl....PCT's I need to learn all these kind of things before I do it.
Thats why I am starting my learing curve 7months before I juice for the 1st time.

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22 Jan 2008 08:58 #647 by Netro
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I agree with MxT, if you can't grow on 400mg test then juice is not for you. Look at his suggestion and rather take it slow and get your diet inline as allot of the growth you will get is determined by your intake of food. The cycle is good for beginners and the D-bol to front load and stabalise your blood levels. You can also look at sus 250 p/w week and deca 200 p/w and still front load with your D-Bols.

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22 Jan 2008 13:43 #652 by Moerhond
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Thx man.
Think ill go for the D-bol and Sus250p/w...
For now I am working on geting my trianing method to work for me.
My diet is cuming along and I should have everything down to the "T" so to say after this weekend.
Then the real fun starts geting to my goal weight before I wana juice.

Tx for all the help guys.

Why dont you guys have like an online jernal or something where newbies like who wana be something and get somewhere can post daily or weekly dairy to say how they are improving and mayby add some pics.
Think it could help for motivation....LOL

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