Axio labs vs Syntrop vs nomad labs vs PGW! Best 1?

Hi guys need some help and your views... Don't need any biased views from people that don't like imported juice because they trying to promote local brands... I have heard that Axio is useless. I have noticed that a lot of the guys on here go for the PGW. Iv used nomad labs juice and stuck with that really... Then I had a friend say that Syntrop and Axio are the best and people(local) shut them down cause they try and promote the local stuff..

I want to start a course of Test Prop and looking for the best manufacturer and just your different views on these manufacturers...

I also see that syntrop and axio have come together and worked out ways of combining different juices in a vial.. I'll get the details and post just now.

Anyway all the help would be appreciated and I'm not that knowledgeable so ur help would be great. Thanks gents!

ok this is getting excessive, how many new topics do you need? stick to PGW it has a good reputation and is proven to provide results. Not that the others haven't, PGW is just well known and you may as well stick to it..

Why don't you try all the brands and see what works best for you? I've been there and tried them all before finding PGW and staying with them. I've been supporting PGW since beginning of 2007 and I've never been disappointed.

Most here will tell you to go for PGW and the only reason they keep saying that is because they were happy with the quality and service.

Axio is not too bad, but good luck if you need a vial swopped... not going to happen as there is NO support, but with PGW there is always going to be great support should you have an issue.

admin...what do mean "but good luck if you need a vial swopped"???

This has been extensively discussed on PGW vs nomad thread and many others, go pay more for shit if you want. The reason us local guys rave about PGW is because it's the best local brand, price,quality,service. I won't waste my time discussing this further all the best local guys use PGW and the biggest I might add. So enjoy your nomad...

I'm just trying to find out what the best make is and well everyone has their eye on PGW and its popular on this site... Just wanted to see what people thought.

I'm going black market style so if a vial needs swopping not sure if supplier would... Lol.

And chapel I know iv bn starting new topics lately but its helping me make the best decision for me and I'm sure somehow helping other people with same issues as me.. I'm not as clued up as all the other guys but I guess this is a way of learning. So unlucks!

TestFreak wrote: admin...what do mean "but good luck if you need a vial swopped"???

Lets say you bought a vial of Testaplex P100 (prop) and then out of nowhere a cold front hits and the next morning your prop crashed and formed crystals... where do you go to have it replaced? Nowhere, because your supplier will not take it back that's for sure. Now you are left trying to get it dissolved in the oven with a needle sticking out of the rubber stopper.

If you bought PGW Prop 100 and it crashes, you only have to take it back to your supplier and it will be swopped as PGW will compensate the supplier with his next order. Plain and simple and you don't have to mess around with oil at 180C.

EDIT: Have a look at this vial of Testaplex C200, it crashed. Note the crystals at the top of the vial. It was tossed in the end, because we couldn't get it dissolved again. If that was a vial of PGW Testocyp it would have been replaced no questions asked.

Koe007 wrote: This has been extensively discussed on PGW vs nomad thread and many others, go pay more for shit if you want. The reason us local guys rave about PGW is because it's the best local brand, price,quality,service. I won't waste my time discussing this further all the best local guys use PGW and the biggest I might add. So enjoy your nomad...

Thanks man... I'm looking for what's best as I said so was looking at using PGW... U guys keep saying that u have great service from them... Is there a site or somewhere that I can buy from them instead of going black market? Then I know I'm getting the real deal. I'll be most probably be trying PGW.

This is what my supplier sent me: 'At last Syntrop and Axio labs have put their heads together to develop a new breed of steroids. Using the latest technologies and pure ingenuity, a new class of steroids has been formulated to give you an even greater edge. The new HYBRID range ( Combined from the finest ingredients by the two best labs). QDR500- each ml contains: 100mg test enanthate. 200mg Nandrolone decanoate. 100mg test Cypionate. 100mg Tren enanthate. DPL4FIFTY each ml contains: 250mg test enanthate. 200mg Drostanolone enanthate (Masteron). PFP2FIFTY each ml contains: 100mg test propionate. 75mg Drostanolone (Masteron). 75mg Tren Acetate. XTR500 each ml contains: 150mg Tren enanthate. 250mg Test enanthate. 100mg Test propionate. SUS4FIFTY each ml contains: 75mg Test Propionate. 75mg Test Phenylpionate. 100mg Test Isocaproate. 100mg Test Decanoate. 100mg Test Cypionate. TEN600 each ml contains: 200mg Test Cypionate. 200mg Boldenone Undeclynate. 200mg Nandrolone Decanoate. TTX400 each ml contains: 150mg Tren Enanthate. 250mg Test Enanthate

That no new steroid, fok anyone can make a "new" blend. haha

This topic is going nowhere, you asked our opinions on the best brand and we gave it to you. Now you have to decide if you would like to use our advice or go with what your supplier told you.

Remember, we've all been there and 95% of us on this forum came to the same conclusion and that is that we find PGW the best. The other 5% don't know here to buy PGW or they are suppliers of other brands.

Thanks Admin, appreciate the help and I enjoy this forum and I am definitely taking the advice from the guys... I'll go with PGW Test Prop. Thanks for all the help guys!

admin wrote:

TestFreak wrote: admin...what do mean "but good luck if you need a vial swopped"???

Lets say you bought a vial of Testaplex P100 (prop) and then out of nowhere a cold front hits and the next morning your prop crashed and formed crystals... where do you go to have it replaced? Nowhere, because your supplier will not take it back that's for sure. Now you are left trying to get it dissolved in the oven with a needle sticking out of the rubber stopper.

If you bought PGW Prop 100 and it crashes, you only have to take it back to your supplier and it will be swopped as PGW will compensate the supplier with his next order. Plain and simple and you don't have to mess around with oil at 180C.

EDIT: Have a look at this vial of Testaplex C200, it crashed. Note the crystals at the top of the vial. It was tossed in the end, because we couldn't get it dissolved again. If that was a vial of PGW Testocyp it would have been replaced no questions asked.

aaaah, okay! thats good to know. PGW here i come :woohoo:

PGW back their products 100%. I'll vouch for that!

I dont get this new craze with making concoctions and blends... Its all bullshit to try and confuse the public and sell the same old shit. Anyone can mix together a few different steroids and make a 'cutting edge' blend. The question is why would you want to? You then lose all control over dosage, it just complicates things unnecessarily. Not to mention the amounts of solvent required to hold those things in solution... That shit'd burn so much if it was legit, that you'd have to dilute it with something else anyway.

Id question the ability to dilute all those compounds together and whether this could actually be done scientifically, perhaps DJ or Admin could advise.

Koe007 wrote: Id question the ability to dilute all those compounds together and whether this could actually be done scientifically, perhaps DJ or Admin could advise.

I can be done, but it all depends on the ability of the carrier oil and solvents how much they can dilute before falling out of solution.

It's like mixing sugar and salt in the same glass of water... it's possible, but if you keep adding sugar and salt the water will soon be saturated and the solution will crash.

I fully agree with Spike and the only mixes that might be useful are when you mix different esters of the same compound. Mixing different compounds complicate things too much and you have no control over dosages.

admin wrote:

Koe007 wrote: It's like mixing sugar and salt in the same glass of water... it's possible, but if you keep adding sugar and salt the water will soon be saturated and the solution will crash.

i agree with u admin, its possible to say dilute 150mg test en and 150mg equipoise into 1 ml for instance but these guys trying to get 500mg per ml is short of impossible dont u agree? like 200mg equi,200mg cyp and 100mg tren en, most people make that amount per single ml of soulution so these guys are trying to get what should be in 3mls down into 1?

End of the day, steroids are so cheap, and mixes are crap... they will never be the dose you looking for, ye a test blend, lekka, other than that, buy the products and dose them according to what you body responds too.

DJ wrote:

admin wrote:

Koe007 wrote: It's like mixing sugar and salt in the same glass of water... it's possible, but if you keep adding sugar and salt the water will soon be saturated and the solution will crash.

i agree with u admin, its possible to say dilute 150mg test en and 150mg equipoise into 1 ml for instance but these guys trying to get 500mg per ml is short of impossible dont u agree? like 200mg equi,200mg cyp and 100mg tren en, most people make that amount per single ml of soulution so these guys are trying to get what should be in 3mls down into 1?

Yeah, you can mix low dosages no prob, but you are right you cannot keep adding and adding hormones to a single ml. It doesn't work that way. It's like someone claiming he dissolved 1kg sugar into 100ml of water.

EDIT: Some hormones dissolve easier than others. Like deca and Test E are pretty easy, however Prop is a bitch unless you are PGW and know what you are doing. I'm sitting with 50g Test E on my desk actually and they melted due to the higher temperature of summer.

admin wrote: Why don't you try all the brands and see what works best for you? I've been there and tried them all before finding PGW and staying with them. I've been supporting PGW since beginning of 2007 and I've never been disappointed.

Most here will tell you to go for PGW and the only reason they keep saying that is because they were happy with the quality and service.

Axio is not too bad, but good luck if you need a vial swopped... not going to happen as there is NO support, but with PGW there is always going to be great support should you have an issue.

as some guys here know .... i was a STAUNCH supporter of another brand that i used to be involved with , they still have a good product. But i've honestly found the PGW products to be flawless, i really can't put it any other way.

Personally, i dont like Nomad at all , never used Axio but i've never heard great things about it either.

So the only brands i'd use are :

DCG and PGW
CGW (overseas product)
and some of the other UG labs contacts i have from years back ... but its too much hassle getting it into the country

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Hey admin, I have a question.. That shouldn't be posted on here. How can I message you privately?

No private messages but I'm sure if you read the site layout it wont be that difficult to contact him, it would be the same for every site or forum, user at domain

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