Diluting Oil Based Steroids i.e. Test E

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24 Jan 2009 14:24 #8898 by Oupiel
I know you can reduce / dilute the concentration of Ovidrel or other water based drugs with sterile water, but how do you dilute Test E down to 100mg/ml.

Why, you ask?

I'm looking at trying a different approach to PCT.
See this: www.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sport...est_taper_protocol_1

The guy (prisoner) has been training for 18 years and is medically trained i.e. ER Nurse.
www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/spo...ws/the_steroid_nurse

It makes sense to me and I'm keen to try it.

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26 Jan 2009 08:18 #8903 by Inja
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The point of PCT is to get the body back to normal as soon as possible so you can focus on maintaining your gains. You might find that during your tapering you will lose mass while your body tries to start firing up its endogenous test and clear out the foreign compounds. Indeed the long ester compounds you take taper themselves out of your system anyways with drug levels being halved every week or so.
If you do try this method then I advise using a SERM, which in itself is in fact a PCT protocol. However it might be interesting (and risky) document your recovery using just the taper. If you do it monitor your blood levels and give us a report back of how much mass you lost compared to usual.
Another board member (Ceej) posted on this topic and I think he might be reporting back on this exact protocol after mid-Feb.

For diluting gear, you can find lots of useful information by researching home brewing. Lots of guy use sesame seed oil and sterilise it by boiling, before injecting into the vial. A second pin can be added to the rubber let out the internal pressure. Just remember to work in as sterile conditions as possible.

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26 Jan 2009 08:21 #8906 by Ceej
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Howzit man,

I am planning on using that exact protocol for my PCT starting Monday 9 Feb. What I was thinking to use for the microfraction of dosages is an Insulin pin, just warming the TestEn nicely beforehand. The slin pin gives you enough granularity in terms of getting an accurate dosage... probably will take forever to shoot though.....

To answer the actual question, or more accurately not answer the question, I was rather considering the slin pin as I am a bit of a stinger on sterility etc. and I do not want to risk compromising the substance. The pin seems like a good alternative to me.

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26 Jan 2009 08:31 #8909 by Inja
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Eh, mid Feb, 9th Feb, same thing :laugh:

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26 Jan 2009 08:32 #8910 by Ceej
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Inja<<< :) I was posting at the exact same time you were...... your post only showed up after I clicked submit.

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26 Jan 2009 10:02 #8914 by Oupiel
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Great minds think alike.. fools never differ!!

Obviously we are reading the same stuff, but this Prisoner guy seems to makes sense. I agree on your point on not contaminating the gear, but isn't there pharma grade sterile oil available somewhere, like sterile water?

Years ago, before Netro put me onto Terumo needles, I was shit scared of jabing myself (Blunt local crap) and I tried using slin pins with Masteron. To suck it up was an absolute bitch, and I dont think I was able to really get into the muscle with such a short pin.

My last PCT was ok, but I think it could be better, maybe I started it too soon
Look forward to hearing how you progress with that PCT.

@ Ceej, if that's you in your avatar, the drugs aren't woring!

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26 Jan 2009 10:14 #8916 by Ceej
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@ Oupiel<<< LOL :laugh:

I had a bit of a problem on my last cycle managing the estrogenic sides.... :)

Funny though, the guys seem to be keen on helping and spotting me... ;)

Just Kidding..... Just a nice motivator for myself. Drives my wife crazy though..... just told her it is for the guys.

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26 Jan 2009 11:58 #8917 by Oupiel
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Damn, I'm seeing flash backs from the crying game.
Nuts on sluts!!! Nasty!!! :P

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27 Jan 2009 08:09 #8974 by Ceej
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I will definately be keeping you updated on how the taper works. I am not sure what your specific thoughts are on this but my main motivators for using the taper is the reported retention of gains made. In the theory of the taper, ones test levels never go below natural which plays a significant role in holding on to your hard earned gains.... and your sex drive never takes a dive ;)

I'll probably be posting a weekly log.... starting 2 weeks into the taper, I'll be waiting till my last "high" dosed jab clears.

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27 Jan 2009 08:24 #8975 by Inja
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A crucial part of any forum that I find considerably lacking across the net is feedback.
Without it a forum might as well just be a comprehensive article on whatever. Good stuff

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