1st time user:

You must be fed-up with all the newbies asking advise.

Well sorry,i want to know if the following will have any effect:

D-Bol : week 1-4
Sustanon : week 1-10
Proviron : week 8-10

I'm 35 year's old, 85 kg, workout for almost 5 years now.

thanks.

Hey SS...

D-Bol for 4 weeks seems ok. Sustanon for 10 weeks seems ok but why Proviron for 2 weeks? Proviron is a strong androgen but it doesn't stimulate the body into producing testosterone.

Proviron is quickly reduced to inactive metabolites in the muscles and so its quite weak in terms of muscle building. So for what ever reason you want to use Proviron be it as an anti estrogen or what ever, you may want to supplement your sustanon usage with something else to help you along. If you're using it purely as an anti estrogen then I don't think 2 weeks is going to cut it mate.

Hopefully some of the other guys will comment too. Maybe one of them can supply you with a bit more info on what to stack with...

Good luck!!!

<@PEYTON - - - >

Thanks, yes i want to use the proviron as for anti estr purposes.
I can use kessar 20 or clomid in it's place?
:S

I would suggest using clomid and kessar as your pct,and throw in some pregnyl if u can get hold of it...

As for running proviron,if i was u i'd run 2tabs a day for the duration of the cycle if u are worried about the estrogenic sides of testosterone,it will also help free up more testosterone,there is a write up on proviron on the forum that will tell u all about how taking proviron on your cycle is a good idea...

How much dbol and sust are u looking to run?if budget is permitting i'd suggest adding in anavar to the last 4weeks me your cycle seeing u are an older individual and it is your first cycle..anavar is a brilliant oral it will give u good pumps,good strength and quality muscle that maintainable...also i'd not run less than 500mg of sust a week and then u can front load the cycle with 25mg-50mg of dbol for the first 4weeks..

How does your diet look?

What are your doses firstly?

As a statement, sus for 10 weeks and proviron for week 8 - 10. Proviron is not the PCT as it is being run in the cycle and a good inclusion in the last 2 weeks IMO. Will sort out cortisol in those last 2 weeks and makes gains better as well when they will taper off due to cortisol and estrogen.

PCT you should consider the compounds DJ suggested.

THANKS FOR THE GOOD ADVISE DJ AND NETRO.
I WILL FRONT LOAD WITH DBOL FOR 4 WEEKS 30-40 MG,
SUST 500MG FOR 10 WEEKS, AND I WILL USE THE PROVIRON FOR LAST 2 WEEKS.
PCT: FROM 12 DAYS AFTER LAST SUST, I WILL USE KESSAR20 AND CLOMID.

DJ MY DIET IS CLEAN , LOTS OF PROTEIN AND LOW ON CARBS.

:laugh: SS

Not too low on carbs, you will hamper gains