Advice please on oral cutting/lean mass cycle

heey there

my name is keesman, i am 93kg, 191cm and around 16% BF and i wanna start a solid lean mass/cutting cycle but have trouble with the right cycle and i would love some advice/help.

Can get my hands on:

Cycle: A
-Brand: oraltec pharma
-Products: Turinabol, winstrol and PCT: nolvadex

OR

Cycle: B
-Brand: oraltec pharma
-Products: Anavar, winstrol and PCT: nolvadex

Fatburners:
-Oraltec: clen
-Zion labs: T5 fatburner

The main issue i have is with anavar, i am a man and anavar is very mild and i dont wanna waste money on a roid that is to mild for me to have some decent effect

So i would like some advice on what cycle is best for losing fat while gaining lean mass and what you think would be the best MG per day.

For example: MG?? Winstrol, MG?? anavar/turinabol

PS: to chek if the oral is REAL, the winstrol caps are small yellow pills, the tbol are lil bigger, flat blue pills and anavar are white if i remenber

Thank you very much!

Your wasting your time doing an oral only cycle, you'll hurt your liver and without adding test you'll lose all your gains.
All cycles should have test as a base, injecting isn't bad at all

ya i know, but tbol is a testo booster and ill stay on orals only untill i have more exp before ill start using needles. so please stay on topic and give me some advice on my question's.

thank you very mich

ps: from what i know the gains from tbol, winny and var are quite solid. you need test mostly with dbol or oxy cuz those gains are hard to keep

T-Bol decreases testosterone jussayin... I think we should keep you far away from the injectables.

keesman wrote: ya i know, but tbol is a testo booster and ill stay on orals only untill i have more exp before ill start using needles. so please stay on topic and give me some advice on my question's.

thank you very mich

ps: from what i know the gains from tbol, winny and var are quite solid. you need test mostly with dbol or oxy cuz those gains are hard to keep

Seems you think you know everything, why come ask for advice then? And when someone gives they're honest opinion you say stay on topic!

Do your oral cycle but dont come cry here afterwards.

pr0gr3s1v3 wrote:
Do your oral cycle but dont come cry here afterwards.

:blink: Keesman, jy is besig om vir kak te soek ! Listen to the advise !

Jy gaan jouself seermaak !

keesman wrote: ya i know, but tbol is a testo booster and ill stay on orals only untill i have more exp before ill start using needles. so please stay on topic and give me some advice on my question's.

thank you very mich

ps: from what i know the gains from tbol, winny and var are quite solid. you need test mostly with dbol or oxy cuz those gains are hard to keep

You have this part backwards, you need dbol or anaps with a test cycle not test with a dbol or anaps cycle. Test is the base of any cycle, the main ingredient if you will.

Yes you can run oral only cycles but gains from it wont be worth in my personal opinion.

But if you looking at really going that route then i wouldnt do anything other then a high dosed var and proviron cycle.

Personally if you "think" your ready to use AAS then get test and pin yourself, the outcome and results will far exceed these oral only cycle's i promise you. Plus im not even gona say that diet needs to be on point.

Fakey_AK wrote:

keesman wrote: ya i know, but tbol is a testo booster and ill stay on orals only untill i have more exp before ill start using needles. so please stay on topic and give me some advice on my question's.

thank you very mich

ps: from what i know the gains from tbol, winny and var are quite solid. you need test mostly with dbol or oxy cuz those gains are hard to keep

You have this part backwards, you need dbol or anaps with a test cycle not test with a dbol or anaps cycle. Test is the base of any cycle, the main ingredient if you will.

Yes you can run oral only cycles but gains from it wont be worth in my personal opinion.

But if you looking at really going that route then i wouldnt do anything other then a high dosed var and proviron cycle.

Personally if you "think" your ready to use AAS then get test and pin yourself, the outcome and results will far exceed these oral only cycle's i promise you. Plus im not even gona say that diet needs to be on point.

Well if hes that adament ( bang ), the most responsible thing you can reccomend is a 8 week cycle of:

80mg anavar ED
80mg primo ace ED
80mg proviron ED

Because once he sees the price tag he might just drop cycling all together lol!

PS: That cycle might actually work....

You don't give any diet spec's, why not rather get your body fat down by a low carb diet and one;s you reached 10% then look at doing a cycle. You are wasting your time by doing a cycle and trying to get lean. All the lean muscle will be covered by fat so what's the use?

Hey lads well this chop no's better... I tried to give home advice and I got told to stay on topic... This is the same guy who wants to take t4 and clen without juice... So lets not waste our time