Anabolic steroids for female figure competitors

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21 Feb 2008 19:49 #1221 by vega5
My wife fell in love with the sport of women's figure (not body building). And I’m very scared to recommend anything for her till I’ve heard from you guys. She's getting pretty lean but lacks shoulder width and a proper v-taper. So what would be a good cycle for pre contest and off season. Taking into account that we don't have kids yet and would like to start a family some day.

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21 Feb 2008 20:44 #1227 by Batman
Sorry bro,, that is not my area of expertise,, I can't reccommend anything for women ,, because unlike men ,, there is not much room for error. Maybe the Doc can be of more help

If it's not working,,, take double,,,

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21 Feb 2008 20:48 #1229 by vega5
According to my research it's basically winstrol max 10mg p/d and equi. That's the only compound I could find that's said to be fit for women. But the equi I’m not very sure of but the winstrol looks like an option.

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21 Feb 2008 21:27 #1231 by Batman
contrary to popular belief Winstrol will cause virilization,, although at 10mg/day it would probably be safe ,,,, , anavar is safer,, and GH ,, but I guess it depends on your goals.

If it's not working,,, take double,,,

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21 Feb 2008 21:50 #1233 by kraz
I would say anavar!

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22 Feb 2008 14:45 #1239 by MxT
Winstrol 5 mg a day max -and even that could be bad- EQ 50mg once a week at a push - Anavar 5-10 mg per day max. I had my wife on 5mg Winny and 5 mg var daily for 6 weeks- no ill effects BUT as Batman said no room for error. If she had to tkae something id say 5mg Var for 3 weeks and if no issues then up it to 10 mg for another then atleast 3 monrhs of in between.

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26 Feb 2008 00:41 #1290 by Doctari
In women in general you stick to orals, max 4-6 weeks. Anavar is the best to use, oral Winstrol is also a good option. Equi really when you are strung out on the orals and need some size. Pre-contest, the last 3 weeks small amounts of Winstrol injectable can do wonders. If she carries a lot of water, Kessar can be given, but I don't like it longer than three weeks. Try not to use Arimidex - only if you are in a fix, then only the last 3-4 days pre-contest. Many female competitors are using HGH the last 5-6 weeks pre-contest - 1 -2 IU's per day, three days on and 4 days off, stop 10 days out.
For bulking a good combination is Anavar and one capsule Zestobolin three times per day, works well and she will definitely chase you around the house....

I know of some women even using Anapolan..... but will not suggest that.

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23 Jan 2011 14:37 #59854 by vega5
I dug out this ancient post because I saw one of SA's best figure ladies at my gym the other day and was wondering if some of you have figures out what these chicks use pre-contest.

My best guess after quite a bit of research is,
Primo (no clue on dosage)
Winny (5mg ED)
HGH (2IU Two days on, one day off)
Nolva (10mg ED for the last 4-6 weeks before cycle)
And a fat burner (Clen maybe Beesting)

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23 Jan 2011 18:58 #59864 by admin
The old legend that posted before you in this thread developed an amazing stack for woman and all the top ladies uses that formula. I'm not allowed to say what the ingredients are though...

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23 Jan 2011 19:34 #59866 by vega5

admin wrote: The old legend that posted before you in this thread developed an amazing stack for woman and all the top ladies uses that formula. I'm not allowed to say what the ingredients are though...

Thanks for the help Admin :dry:

I'm working off memory here but I remember a post where LP was looking at manufacturing such a combo. Something like, T3, Proviron, Winny and another two ingredients.

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23 Jan 2011 19:55 #59867 by vega5
This is exactly what I despise of the body building world, the secrecy.

I mean, we all would like to see the industry flourish but the (proper) information is so hard to come by and when you finally get to somebody that can give it there's always a price involved.

This statement isn't just on this topic but about the industry as a whole.

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24 Jan 2011 06:12 #59873 by 00pump
It's really not that hard to know what works or doesn't, I can tell you..

Anavar at 10mg a day
Winstrol at 5 - 10mg a day
Equipose 75/150mg a week
Primobolin at 50/100mg a week
hGH (1iu / 2iu)
Nolvadex at 10mg a day, no longer than 2 weeks.
All your fat / thyroid drugs.

Great stack, Primo at 100mg a week, Nolva at 10mg a day, T3 up to 75mcg, Clen (what can be tolerated) or HEAT at 4 caps a day. And can include something like spironolactone and then controlling carb intake to prevent any additional water.

I have a friend who is training figure models at the moment and those are the drugs they use. I was chatting to him on the beach for a few hours discussing woman and gear this last December.

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24 Jan 2011 08:21 #59880 by Empire
guys, Equipoise i wouldnt go there with females!! the reason is if there is any complications and nasty sides that present themselves and the Equi is stopped u are still looking at 4-6 weeks till sides go away cos of the long half life,i know of women using nandrolones but i wouldnt suggest anything other than NPP for women,the shorter ester means if there are any sides that do raise up they will diminish quicker than using the longer ester stuff..

also primo at 50mg a week is more than enough... if you are not using winstrol 10-20mg of anavar would be a better option....

so if you are a hardcore fitness you could go something like things :

10-20mg anavar daily
50mg primo every 7 days
50mg NPP every 5th day.
gh 2iu eod.

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24 Jan 2011 08:53 #59883 by 00pump
It isn't the best option to use EQ or Nandro, however figure models do. Also that active life of EQ is only 15 days, so any nasty sides would start to subside around day 10. I was just giving a list of what they can use. And 50mg of Primo is a little to weak for results, my woman has used +/- 125mg a week with 0 side effects.

20mg of var a day would cause more problems than 100+mg of Primo and more so 20mg of Winstrol. The above figures I have given are tried and tested and work for women and as stated my friend trains SA top athletes, however I can't mention their names on the board. Also if you look at international boards they will validate figures that I have stated in the above post.

Also NPP can be detected up to 12 months so I would never advise this for a competitive athletes, its not the ester that you need to worry about but the metabolites.

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24 Jan 2011 08:58 #59884 by Empire
see every trainer is different pump,this protocol for women seems to work very well,i have seen it and seen minimal issues with it...so i guess each to their own really...

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24 Jan 2011 09:04 #59885 by 00pump
The only thing I worry about is the abuse in women is far greater than us, and the NASTY side effects, like changes in their voice, sterility (spelling), increased body hair (yuk), thinning of their hair (also looks crap) unless she is Demi Moore (DoMeMore) "and can shave her head", changes in menstrual cycle, cervical cancer, etc.

That's why unless you hardcore, I would play it as safe as possible (low doses of var) / GH / T3 / Fatburners.

I don't doubt the above cycle of yours works, just scary when women start stacking steroids.

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24 Jan 2011 11:24 #59902 by vega5
Thanks DJ and Pump,

This is some serious info and exactly what I was looking for. As with males I think its all up to individual, as certain drug works wonders for some and not that great for others.

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25 Jan 2011 11:09 #59960 by Hulkie
Interesting information thanks guys.

What are the proven dangers/disadvantages for ladies running kessar longer than 4 weeks ?

My friend runs 20mg kessar daily to control her estrogen and from research we have done its not bad for good cholestrol like arimidex so interested to hear your comments.

Thanks guys

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25 Jan 2011 11:40 #59964 by 00pump
Does your woman use the pill if she does you are doing something dangerous as Nolva (SERM) Anti Estrogen and the pill being an estrogen would clash. Also Nolva can screw up your menstrual cycles or event cause you to stop your cycle.

Also if you fall pregnant while on Nolva your embryo is at risk, advised to wait around 2 months before trying to have a kid. Cholesterol is the last thing you need to worry about :P

Nolvadex should not be used to control the estrogen, but maybe look at changing her pill.

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25 Jan 2011 12:22 #59972 by Hulkie
Hey Pump,

Nee nee she is not on the pill and have had sterilization operation 3 years ago.

I thought Nolvadex is the safest option to control Estrogen for HER specifically. Please let me know what else you would suggest she use to control estrogen. Asseblief :)

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25 Jan 2011 12:38 #59973 by 00pump
Ahh, you have covered most of the danger angles then, so I wouldn't worry to much :)

What dose is she taking, 10mg?

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25 Jan 2011 12:58 #59978 by Hulkie
One 20mg LP Capsule a day . That ok or cause issues ?

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26 Jan 2011 06:06 #60002 by vega5
Did is actually a very interesting topic.

Is just have one or two areas where I still need some clarification.

*On the Nolva, there's still varying opinions regarding the lenght the cycle must be. Some say two weeks right up till six so some clarity would help? And when is the best time to incorporate this, leading up until the day of the comp?
*Should the girl stay on the pill while on this cycle?
*the primobolan, must it be the oral or injectable?

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26 Jan 2011 07:15 #60008 by 00pump
vega run it longer just don't use the pill, I don't always give full explanations as I gather most young woman use the pill to have better control over their cycles, etc.

I wouldn't use more than 10mg a day and if you want maximum results use 5mg twice a day. It's easy, take an LP cap (pour it onto something), mix it up, chop it into 4 pieces, the drug is so tiny but should spread somewhat evenly and just use your finger and and dip it on that piece and lick it. It's filled with flower so it doesn't taste bad. Spend 2 minutes doing this and your cap is ready for 2 days, put the left over in a cupboard or something out of the way.

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26 Jan 2011 11:22 #60036 by Hulkie
Ok thanks for advice Pump !!!

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