Help! Cutting cycle! Prop, Var, Prov, T3, Yoh, FFF

Good day!

I'm in need of some advice and currently planning a cutting cycle.
Can you guys advice me on my cycle?

Using a Keto diet already. Finally understand a real good diet after reading the sticky notes from DJ.

Must I use Essentiale?

For now I'm planning this:


Prop. Var. T3. Yoh. Prov. FFF
Day 1 1ml 20mg. 10mg. 2b.1r
Day 2 20mg. 10mg. 2b.1r
Day 3 1ml 20mg. 10mg. 2b.1r
Day 4 20mg. 10mg. 2b.1r
Day 5 1ml 20mg. 10mg. 2b.1r
Day 6 20mg. 10mg. 2b.1r
Day 7 1ml 30mg. 10mg. 2b.1r
Day 8 30mg. 10mg. 2b.1r
Day 9 1ml 30mg. 10mg. 2b.1r
Day 10 30mg. 10mg. 2b.1r
Day 11 1ml 30mg. 10mg. 2b.1r
Day 12 40mg. 10mg. 2b.1r
Day 13 1ml 40mg. 10mg. 2b.1r
Day 14 40mg. 10mg. 2b.1r
Day 15 1ml 20mg. 40mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 16 20mg. 40mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 17 1ml 20mg. 50mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 18 20mg. 50mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 19 1ml 20mg. 50mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 20 20mg. 50mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 21 1ml 20mg. 50mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 22 20mg. 60mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 23 1ml 20mg. 60mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 24 20mg. 60mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 25 1ml 20mg. 60mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 26 20mg. 60mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 27 1ml 20mg. 50mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 28 20mg. 50mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 29 1ml 20mg. 50mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 30 20mg. 50mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 31 1ml 20mg. 50mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 32 20mg. 40mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 33 1ml 20mg. 40mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 34 20mg. 40mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 35 1ml 20mg. 40mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 36 20mg. 40mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 37 1ml 20mg. 30mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 38 20mg. 30mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 39 1ml 20mg. 30mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 40 20mg. 30mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 41 20mg. 30mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 42 20mg. 20mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 43 20mg. 20mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 44 20mg. 20mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 45 20mg. 20mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 46 20mg. 20mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 47 20mg. 10mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 48 20mg. 10mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 49 20mg. 10mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 50 20mg. 10mg. 10mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 51 20mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 52 20mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 53 20mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 54 20mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 55 20mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 56 20mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 57 20mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 58 20mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 59 20mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 60 20mg. 20mg 2b.1r
Day 61 20mg. 20mg
Day 62 20mg. 20mg
Day 63 20mg. 20mg
Day 64 20mg. 20mg
Day 65
Day 66 Clomid Nolvadex
Day 67 2x50mg
Day 68 2x50mg
Day 69 2x50mg
Day 70 2x50mg
Day 71 2x50mg
Day 72 2x50mg
Day 73 2x50mg
Day 74 20mg
Day 75 20mg
Day 76 20mg
Day 77 20mg
Day 78 20mg
Day 79 20mg
Day 80 20mg
Day 81 20mg
Day 82 20mg
Day 83 20mg
Day 84 20mg
Day 85 20mg
Day 86 20mg
Day 87 20mg
Day 88 20mg
Day 89 20mg
Day 90 20mg
Day 91 20mg
Day 92 20mg
Day 93 20mg
Day 94 20mg
Day 95 20mg
Day 96 20mg
Day 97 20mg
Day 98 20mg
Day 99 20mg
Day 100 20mg
Day 101 20mg
Day 102 20mg
Day 103 20mg
Day 104 20mg
Day 105 20mg

Can you simplify that? It's like reading code from The Matrix. Something like this:
E.g:
Week 1-8: Test Prop @150mg EOD (every other day)
Week 1-10: T3 @20mcg ED
Start PCT Week 10

Remember not to say 2ml as the concentration per ml changes with every brand.

I thought keto and cycle is a no no?

PLEASE IGNORE THAT MATRIX I.T. I wrote!

Sorry Pyro! Copy paste obviously did not work to well.

Day 1-40: test prop @ 100mg EOD
Day 1-50: T3 starting @ 20mg and working my way up every 5th day with 10mg up to 60 and then working my way down to 10 mg again by lowering dosage with 10mg every 5 days after being on 60mg for 5 days
Day 1-50: Yohimbine @ 10mg everyday
Day 1-60: FFF everyday @ 2 blue 1 red
Day 15-65: Anavar @ 20mg everyday
Day 15-65: Provinon @ 20mg everyday

PCT: waiting 2 days after last Anavar use
Clomid @ 100mg everyday for 14 days
Nolvadex @ 20mg everyday for 30days starting directly after Clomid use

Products planning on using:

Anavar - 20mg caps - Liquid-Pharma
Proviron - 20mg caps - Liquid-Pharma
Testo Prop - 100mg/ml - PGW
Yohimbine - 10mg caps - Liquid-Pharma
T3 - 20mg caps - Aspen
Fat Furnace Fifteen - Unknown?
Clomid - 50mg - Liquid-Pharma
Nolvadex - 20mg - Liquid-Pharma

If you have any thoughts that I should maybe change some of the brands please do tell. As far as I can see they are good quality.

Pyroclasm wrote: Can you simplify that? It's like reading code from The Matrix. Something like this:
E.g:
Week 1-8: Test Prop @150mg EOD (every other day)
Week 1-10: T3 @20mcg ED
Start PCT Week 10

Remember not to say 2ml as the concentration per ml changes with every brand.

Code from the matrix hahahaaa!

Have you used FFF before? If not....I suggest just using it on its own without the T3 and so on to loose weigh as I used for the 1st time a few months back with a decent diet and shockingly lost 9kg in 3weeks!!! I know some was water but still, 9kg was amazing....then I got injuries upon injuries and fell off the bandwagon....and I had this funny effect on the FFF whereby for a few hours after taking I had like this coldness inside me but on the outside sweating like a mofo....funny strange feeling that I didn't like too much....but dunno why I had that reaction....anyhow, like I say, if you hav not used FFF before, give it a bash on its own and see how it works, when you dropped the weight then hit your juice....

FFF + yohimbine.....eish. Try the FFF on its own first

MCJ wrote: FFF + yohimbine.....eish. Try the FFF on its own first

I agree completely.

admin wrote:

MCJ wrote: FFF + yohimbine.....eish. Try the FFF on its own first

I agree completely.

FFF already has yohimbine in but besides that it's damn potent. FFF + yohimbine + T3 is overkill IMO. Jy gan k@k van di sides

MCJ wrote:

admin wrote:

MCJ wrote: FFF + yohimbine.....eish. Try the FFF on its own first

I agree completely.

FFF already has yohimbine in but besides that it's damn potent. FFF + yohimbine + T3 is overkill IMO. Jy gan k@k van di sides

Hy gaan nie kak van die sides nie, hy gaan bladdy skeef trek :pinch:

Oupa wrote:

MCJ wrote:

admin wrote:

MCJ wrote: FFF + yohimbine.....eish. Try the FFF on its own first

I agree completely.

FFF already has yohimbine in but besides that it's damn potent. FFF + yohimbine + T3 is overkill IMO. Jy gan k@k van di sides

Hy gaan nie kak van die sides nie, hy gaan bladdy skeef trek :pinch:

Lol so iets ja

Haha, shame arme oukie. Dankie vir jou raad aan hom

Thank you guys! I did not know that FFF contains yohimbine already. I will definitely use the FFF first on its own. Thats why I rather ask "die wyse manne".

Jys welkom om te vra ouboet...

Amper lê ek en vrek so bietjie bietjie

Julle is soos goeie ou vriende. Gee mens net k@k! Maar dis goed ek vra mos vir dit. :lol:

SmallOne wrote: PLEASE IGNORE THAT MATRIX I.T. I wrote!

Direct copy from MS Excel, pasted as plain text, retain formatting but the spreadsheet is gone = big mess

SmallOne wrote: Day 1-40: test prop @ 100mg EOD
Day 1-50: T3 starting @ 20mg and working my way up every 5th day with 10mg up to 60 and then working my way down to 10 mg again by lowering dosage with 10mg every 5 days after being on 60mg for 5 days
Day 1-50: Yohimbine @ 10mg everyday
Day 1-60: FFF everyday @ 2 blue 1 red
Day 15-65: Anavar @ 20mg everyday
Day 15-65: Provinon @ 20mg everyday

1. The anabolics in here are pretty low dose, I guess it's JUST to prevent as little muscle loss as possible? IMO if you are shutting down your HPTA for a cycle, you might as well up the dosage a bit. Var for instance gives good effects at 60mg/ day. It's expensive to run though. Have you used Winny before as an alternative if money is an issue?

2. In terms of fat-loss chemicals, I recommend cycling between FFF and Yohimbe + Albuterol/ Clenbuterol. 2 - 6 weeks of each depending on if you are taking Beta-Sleep or something for receptor up-regulation on Clen/Alb. IMO no need for T3, it'll just complicate things involving your thyroid like that. Plus the less gear & chemicals you use, the better you can pinpoint the culprits for side-effects.

Disclaimer: I have used EVERYTHING you intend to use before, but it's still just my advice.

Thanks Furk, for now I am only going to use FFF. At a later point I would like to run a cycle similar to this but as you say with a higher dosage of anavar and also a higher test dosage but replace the T3 with clen.

Just for interest sake. Is the use of Anavar and Provinon at the correct times in the cycle I wrote?

Wayne wrote: Have you used FFF before? If not....I suggest just using it on its own without the T3 and so on to loose weigh as I used for the 1st time a few months back with a decent diet and shockingly lost 9kg in 3weeks!!! I know some was water but still, 9kg was amazing....then I got injuries upon injuries and fell off the bandwagon....and I had this funny effect on the FFF whereby for a few hours after taking I had like this coldness inside me but on the outside sweating like a mofo....funny strange feeling that I didn't like too much....but dunno why I had that reaction....anyhow, like I say, if you hav not used FFF before, give it a bash on its own and see how it works, when you dropped the weight then hit your juice....

So I started using my FFF only. The feeling I get is strange but think I can relate to your sides. It is a kindoff numb feeling I would say inside me. Can't pin point the feeling exactly but this would be the best way to describe the effect. The sweating part.....kindoff difficult to say that I have the same side as you, as I am a keen squash player and well mostly after we have played it looks like you just took a quick swim with your clothes on and also it is a warm time of year. But no major side. Anyways, maybe it is just my eyes lying or mindset but after 2 days of use I can swear I lost some fat already. Will see if my weight changed when I weigh myself again. Between the gym 4 times a week and squash 6 times a week and on FFF with a good diet....sh*t must be happening!