Newbie First Cycle

Hi guys

I've been doing a lot of research regarding AAS and gear in general and decided to do my first cycle.

I'm 40 years old and have been training for about 2 years. Currently busting my ass in the gym and eating clean. I'm looking to build lean, quality mass with little to no water retention or bloat. I'm more interested in aesthetics than pure bulkiness. Currently eating at 5-10% above my TDEE.

My current stats:
Age: 40
Weight: 75kg
Height: 178cm
BF: 14%

Please have a look at my cycle and let me know what you think:

Weeks 1-12 Test Cyp 400mg (200mg Tuesday 200mg Saturday)
Weeks 11-16 T-Bol 40mg ED (20mg 6am, 20mg 6pm)
Weeks 17-18 Clomid 100mg (50mg 6am, 50mg 6pm)
Weeks 19-22 Nolva 20/20/20/20
Weeks 1-16 Arimadex 0.2mg EOD

Appreciate your input.

HCG?

Hi Stallie777 and welcome to the forum.

Your cycle is nice basic cycle for a first time.

Only comments:

Consider HCG during cycle @ 250IU x 2 per week.
Keep Arimadex on hand and only use when necessary.
Maybe use t-bol as a kicker and use Winny in bridge.

But ultimately your choice.

Good luck, you'll enjoy it!!

Thanks, appreciate your input guys.

Will 2 orals be ok in the same cycle?

Will 4 weeks of Tbol 40mg ED be better than 6 weeks or should I stick to 6 weeks?

I would do 4 weeks T-bol as a kicker from week 1 and then 4 weeks Winny in bridge before PCT.

You shouldn't have any troubles if your are not a hard drinker... :whistle:

You can add Essentials throughout your cycle for support.

4 Weeks Tbol as a kick is fine.

6 weeks Winny oral Bridge is also fine.

Just use Essential Extreme with it.

Stallie, this is going to be your first cycle where you are going to learn how your body respond to the different compounds.

Your cycle is a good basic cycle for a beginner, but might need some adjustment as you go and as your body respond to it. So keep us posted as you go on!!

Appreciate the Essentiale Extreme tip, will definitely keep it in mind.

To be honest I already started my cycle. Currently on week 5 pin no 9. Things are going great. I lost 2% BF and gained about 3Kg lean mass. Strength improved and endurance is through the roof. Only thing I would have changed is to maybe wait with the Adex till week 3 or 4 but because I use a really low dose it didn't make that big of a difference. I know some guys go crazy with AI and in the process tank their Estrogen causing them to feel like shit..

Will it be better to end my cycle with Tbol or Winny and will 6 weeks be good or should I only do 4 weeks?


Thanks guys

If you have not used an oral yet then don't. As the testosterone is in your system.


Do Winstrol last two weeks with your Testosterone and then 4weeks after your last pin until 2 days before PCT. That's your 6weeks bridge.

Thanks, was also thinking of doing it like that.

Why would you choose Winny over Tbol?

Polishes a Testosterone well any cycle off nicely and it will help you lean out and harden up some of those new Testosterone gains nicely.

Sorry for all the questions but I read that Winny is only really beneficial when you have very low BF% and that some people complain about joint pains.

I've only read good things about Tbol so I'm still leaning towards it for some lean gains at the end of my cycle.

Stallie777 wrote: Sorry for all the questions but I read that Winny is only really beneficial when you have very low BF% and that some people complain about joint pains.

I've only read good things about Tbol so I'm still leaning towards it for some lean gains at the end of my cycle.

Well done on doing research, not many people come here with informed/educated ideas. That is absolutely correct and i like to recommend tbol for 1st cycles as well.
Personally i wouldn't change anything on your cycle unless maybe going for anavar to lean out a bit as the cycle comes to an end.

That's also fine Stallie no problem Tbol is a very versatile compound

Thanks guys you rock!

Hoosain wrote: Well done on doing research, not many people come here with informed/educated ideas. That is absolutely correct and i like to recommend tbol for 1st cycles as well.
Personally i wouldn't change anything on your cycle unless maybe going for anavar to lean out a bit as the cycle comes to an end.

Thanks Hoosain, I don't understand how someone can start a cycle or even think of doing AAS without doing proper research first.

Appreciate the help guys.

Stallie777 wrote:

Hoosain wrote: Well done on doing research, not many people come here with informed/educated ideas. That is absolutely correct and i like to recommend tbol for 1st cycles as well.
Personally i wouldn't change anything on your cycle unless maybe going for anavar to lean out a bit as the cycle comes to an end.

Thanks Hoosain, I don't understand how someone can start a cycle or even think of doing AAS without doing proper research first.

Appreciate the help guys.

Dude it pisses me off when i see someone ready to start a cycle but don't even know what dosage to start with.
not to mention when i speak to people at work/gym/neighbourhood etc... worst part is when they are convinced they know what they doing with their 5 weeks deca cycle with one month break and repeat hahaha. at that point i just leave and say good luck