Show prep Cycle 12 weeks

Hi Guys,

Looking for some advise for cycle to prep for show.

I am planning a 12 week cycle, 5 weeks to bulk and loose a bit of BF% and 7 weeks to shred BF.

My Plan is to use the following:

Week 1-5:

Test Cyp 1ml EOD
SD ED.

Week 6-12
PFP250 EOD (Test Prop, Tren, Masteron Blend)
Winstrol 50mg ED
Aromasin when needed.

PCT
Nolvadex
Aromasin


Any advice or questions would be appreciated.

I have prepped for a show before but never went as life happened.

Previous prep I was on the exact same cycle.

I did a short 5 week cycle after that with:
Test Cyp 2ml EOD
Tren 1ml EOD

I had good gains with the 5 week cycle, added 10kg.

My Stats atm:
Weight: 110kg
BF%: 15-18%

Not sure what else you guys need from me.

Hey
Just my 2cents. You wont you just run your cycle with pfp250 for 12weeks? Add in Winstrol the last 4weeks nd done?
You could even addin a mild clen dosage together with the above cycle. If you feel the need to

Pct. go for clomid/nolverdex nd aromasin pct 3 on this site

Please oost your diet. This is key. If you want to be stage ready

Thanks Samz,

I feel more comfortable with any tren on a shorter cycle. But it is worth considering. Thank you.

I would like some gains from Cyp and SD but I suppose PFP and SD for the first few weeks should also give sufficient gains?

The Cyp SD is to gain muscle before the cut phase.

Thanks for PCT advise.

My Diet would be

Meal 1: Shake with
Half serving Mass Gainer
80g Oats
150g Banana
2tbsp Peanut Butter

Meal 2:
200G Chicken Breast
200-400g Basmati Rice (Slowly increase during bulk and slowly decrease during cut)
or 200-300g Potato (Slowly increase during bulk and slowly decrease during cut)
or 200-300g Sweet Potato (Slowly increase during bulk and slowly decrease during cut)
100g Broccoli

Meal 3:
200G Chicken Breast
200-400g Basmati Rice (Slowly increase during bulk and slowly decrease during cut)
or 200-300g Potato (Slowly increase during bulk and slowly decrease during cut)
or 200-300g Sweet Potato (Slowly increase during bulk and slowly decrease during cut)
100g Green Beans

Meal 4:
200G Chicken Breast
200-400g Basmati Rice (Slowly increase during bulk and slowly decrease during cut)
or 200-300g Potato (Slowly increase during bulk and slowly decrease during cut)
or 200-300g Sweet Potato (Slowly increase during bulk and slowly decrease during cut)
100g Broccoli

Meal 5:
200G Chicken Breast
200-400g Basmati Rice (Slowly increase during bulk and slowly decrease during cut)
or 200-300g Potato (Slowly increase during bulk and slowly decrease during cut)
or 200-300g Sweet Potato (Slowly increase during bulk and slowly decrease during cut)
100g Broccoli

OR (IF Cut Phase)
2 Cans Tuna Salted Water
Large Green Salad.

Hey buddy, the cyp at 1ml EOD won't do much considering the cyp will only start working around 4 weeks in.
pfp250 for the entire cycle would probably be better, although i personally would probably cape it at 8 weeks.

Orals for 12 weeks straight? That is pure murder on your liver. highly advise to not go that route buddy.

How many cycles have you been through in the past? and what did they consist of?

also your diet, that's a lot of food for someone who wants to cut.

I would change that mass builder to a whey protein and cut down on the rice big time.
I would also try to add some good fats like nuts and avo. try to swap out some of my potatoes for other lighter carbs like green salads.

To me that diet screams bulk, bulk and more bulk. However that could just be how my body reacts to those foods.

Don't worry about gaining size. If you're planning on using a product like pfp250 trust me you will gain size. There will be enough test and tren in there to gain size while cutting.

previous Cycle was

Week 1-6
SD ed
Test Cyp 1ml eod

Week 6-12
Pfp 1ml eod
Winstrol 40mg ed


Second Cycle was
2ml cyp eod
1ml tren eod

From what I experienced in the past is my body does good with lots of carb but I get what you are saying woth good fats.

So I won't be able to get PFP anywhere so that rules out that.

Any other suggestions?

Break Down of my planned diet


Breakfast 13.90 62.69 34.33 495


Peanut Butter
1 tbsp
8.06 3.13 4.01 94

Jungle Oats
1 serving, 40 g
3.20 23.00 5.80 146

TNT TNT 100% Prime Whey
32 g
2.14 2.30 22.88 121

Bananas
150 g
0.50 34.26 1.64 134
Add Item
Lunch 24.28 76.70 218.45 1495


Basmati Rice (Cooked)
100 g
0.38 25.22 3.54 121

Basmati Rice (Cooked)
100 g
0.38 25.22 3.54 121

Chicken Breast (Skin Not Eaten)
200 g
7.08 61.52 328

Chicken Breast (Skin Not Eaten)
200 g
7.08 61.52 328

Chicken Breast (Skin Not Eaten)
200 g
7.08 61.52 328

Woolworths Broccoli Florets
200 g
0.40 5.40 5.60 59

Woolworths Broccoli Florets
200 g
0.40 5.40 5.60 59

Woolworths Broccoli Florets
200 g
0.40 5.40 5.60 59

Sweet Potato
50 g
0.02 10.06 0.78 43

Chicken Breast (Skin Not Eaten)
30 g
1.06 9.23 49
Add Item
Dinner 9.63 9.46 37.75 239


Woolworths Raw Almonds
10 g
4.93 2.33 2.13 57

I&J Hake Fillet
200 g
1.20 33.80 121

Green String Beans
100 g
0.12 7.13 1.82 31

Olive Oil
1/4 tbsp
3.38 30
Add Item
Snacks/Other 2.14 2.30 22.88 121


TNT TNT 100% Prime Whey
32 g
2.14 2.30 22.88 121
Add Item

esgaroth wrote: previous Cycle was

Week 1-6
SD ed
Test Cyp 1ml eod

Week 6-12
Pfp 1ml eod
Winstrol 40mg ed


Second Cycle was
2ml cyp eod
1ml tren eod

So you've done a cycle like this one before?

I would change that test cyp to prop if planning to pin EOD.
Currently thats probably around 750mg of test per week which will only really start working when you stop using the test cyp.

Have a look at the sample cycles and try admins cutting cycle instead?

Also you mention your body does good with alot of carbs. Do you mean when you cut as well?
Also, have you worked out your BMR? I think using that and going in a deficit or even just maintenance with something like pfp or supercutmix will do some good for cutting and maintaining muscle.

Yes I have done a cycle like that before.

I had a look at admins cutting cycle, it is a bit advanced than what I would feel comfortable with.

Would it be plausible to follow the example but leave out the tren? Then Keto wouldnt be needed for tren cough and also Cabas could be left out as well? Also would arimidex then still be needed if tren is not taken and also would ovidrel still be needed for PCT?

I know I am taking the main component out of the cycle but I know how I cope with Tren, in a blend I find it easy to cope with. But on its own the rage cranks up a lot and being a married man I don't want unnecessary troubles.

With the carbs, in bulk I push my carbs up as much as possible while still maintaining good BF% so I have more room for cutting out carbs during cut phase which usually leaves me with a bit higher carb intake.

Getting my hands on a blend mix like pfp is out of the question at the moment as it is hard to get atm due to some stuff that went down.

Ok thanks for the in depth explanation.
Seems like you know your body already.

You're quite right, it is an advanced cycle. If you cut the tren you wouldn't need the cabaser and ovidrel.

I have personally been reading up and constantly find alot of people substitute tren with npp due to the rage and use it in a cutting cycle. However with that option your diet would have to be spot on as npp is more of a bulking agent.

Such a pity the blend is unavailable as i personally like this one and the hd supercut mix.
I would wait for someone like Oupa to come and give more advice, he and the vets would have loads more info for your specific situation.

Thanks for the help already,

I really do like pfp as well, temper is in check with minimal rage etc.

I will try other sources and if I am lucky enough to get pfp I would use up to 8 weeks and continue with anavar and clen.

Lets wait for the vets to advise.

SO I managed to source pfp,

Now my question is, what would you guys recommend on how to use it?

I plan on 2x pins a week, which days would be best?

Also if I only get 1x 10ml vial it would last 5 weeks, what are your thoughts on that? Also do I need to take anything with it i.e armimidex and such for hormone levels? And what PCT protocol would be advised?

Should I use prop or cyp with SD prior or just prop or cyp with anavar straight through?

Help a brother out.

esgaroth wrote: SO I managed to source pfp,

Now my question is, what would you guys recommend on how to use it?
8-10-12weeks for a cycle

I plan on 2x pins a week, which days would be best?
mondays -Wednesday-Friday

Also if I only get 1x 10ml vial it would last 5 weeks, what are your thoughts on that?
dont waste your time on a 5week cycle. Also do I need to take anything with it i.e armimidex and such for hormone levels? And what PCT protocol would be advised?
arimidexs is needed on hand. Also caber since theres tren in that blend. Pct 3 a must

Should I use prop or cyp with SD prior or just prop or cyp with anavar straight through?
this is not needed if you just run pfp for 8-10-12weeks. My 2cents. If you want to use prop add it in 2gether with pfp on the days u pin anavar will be a good finisher to that cycle. May be even test prop nd anavar towards the end of cycle as a extension

Help a brother out.

Thanks,

I will go then for weeks,

Also, I just want to do 2ml per week so mondays, wednesday and friday would make it 3 pins a week at 3ml per wweek.

I have used tren twice now and never get tren cough though. But will use arimidex

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esgaroth wrote: Thanks,

I will go then for weeks,

Also, I just want to do 2ml per week so mondays, wednesday and friday would make it 3 pins a week at 3ml per wweek.

Monday- Thursday but you pushing it here. I say that because of the blend ( all 3 compounds are short esthers)

I have used tren twice now and never get tren cough though. But will use arimidex

arimidex is not used for prevention of tren cough. Its anti estrogen med. read a bit more on this site

I was referring to the cabas.

esgaroth wrote: I was referring to the cabas.

Thats for prolactin control from 19nor compounds.
Please read more

I'm with samz. 3 times a week.
You're most likely going to feel shit with your plasma levels going up and down if you pin twice a week.

I don't seem to get much of a response on here other than from Hoosain +1 for Hoosain,

Hoped for a bit more support / information as I read other posts I see loads of support and advice been given.

But I am not giving up.

I have made up my mind in terms of what I plan for my cycle after looking at my budget and working around what I can afford and what goal I have in mind for myself.

So here is my cycle. Please give as much helpful advice as possible.

Please share your thoughts, regarding cycle and PCT, also arimidex on hand at 0.5mg p/d. Regarding arimidex, when in the cycle should I stop using?

Apologies about spacing, I did the best I could

SD = Superdrol 10mg x2
Prop = Prop 100
Pfp = PFP250
Winstl = Winstrol 15mg

CYCLE
SD......Prop....PFP......Winstl..Clomid.Nolvadex.Aromasin.
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This cycle layout is hard to understand. If you can go for this layout or even in excel nd print screen it here as a image.
Something like this

wk1-4 sd @ 20mg ed test prop 100mg eod
Wk4-6 test prop 100mg eod

Waiting period between injectable and pct is too long (should be 2weeks because of the pfp and the winstrol)

I would suggest running pfp first in the cycle then finishing off with test prop and winstrol or superdrol

Thanks Sam,

Let me try this way,

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But to make it easier:

Week 1-4 SD @ 20mg ed, Test prop @ 1ml eod, arimidex @0.5mg ed
Week 5-7 Test prop @1ml eod, winny 45mg ed, arimidex @0.5mg ed
Week 7-9 Pfp @1ml eod, winny @45mg ed, arimidex @0.5mg ed
Week 11 Clomid 2x50mg ed
Week 12--16 Nolvadex @20mg ed, Aromasin @20mg ed.

Your bridge period should be week 10-11 and i would use an oral during this period. So maybe start your winstrol a week or 2 later so that it finished a day or 2 before PCT starts

Then Clomid starts from week 12. Some people hate the feeling of clomid taking 100mg/day. You can get away with doing 50mg for 2 weeks instead and then starting your nolva after that