First Cycle in many years - questions

Hi Guys

New to the forum. I have decided to start with the Dbol & TestCyp cycle as described on the Cycles page.

Some background:
I did a Dbol, Sus and Deca cycle about 5 years ago, no issues then except for some injection site pain.

Currently at 87kg, BF about 15-17% (guestimate) and training 5 times a week.
Decided to start my cycle after Dec holidays as I can't find a gym close to where i will be on holiday.

Questions i have:

1. If i start showing signs of gynecomastia, what dosage of Letrozole should i take and how often?
2. With the PGW TestCyp, what guage needle do i use?
3. I assume the HCG in PCT is also an intramuscular injection, which guage needle and how often should i change injection sites?
4. With Dbol, do i take all 4 capsules at the same time or do i split? Also, what time of day do i need to take the capsules? Before Gym or in the morning?
5. Is there anything i should be weary about or signs i should look out for if things start to go wrong?

Apologies if these questions have been asked before.

Hello BT.

1. I wouldn't recommend Leto.Gyno doesn't just happen overnight so try to keep some nolvadex or Alex or aromasin on hand as it is needed.

2. 21g or 23g needle.

3. No,HCG is injected subq about 3 cm's away from the bellybutton.I usually do my HCG while on cycle.

4.You can split the drol during the day ,and usually 10-20mg's, 45 minutes before gym as it's a really good "pre-workout".

5.Yes look out for gyno,remember the liver essentials as drol is quite toxic.If you want to keep your gains as lean as possible try not to eat to many carbs.The results of your gains will only be "decided" according to your diet. Remember to drink lots of water.

However your bodyfat % is quite high for someone who wants to run dbol.I would recommend dropping some of that fat and water before jumping on a drol cycle.

Thanks Henru.

So which needle/injection device should i get for the HCG?
I am continually on Milk Thistle, should i get anything else as well?

I will drop some of my bfat before the cycle, i lost bfat quite quickly so it shouldn't be a problem.

You can ask your pharmacy for insulin needles.Usually 29 or 31g.Liver essentials extreme is what most guys I know use.A lot of studies has shown that milk thistle is not that effective.

You should try getting something like gw501516 or Yohimibine to help aid in fatloss.

Not that Milk Thistle doesn't work, thing is milk thistle can inhibit the function of androgen receptors, no-one knows to what degree.

It is effective, however use it like 4 weeks prior your cycle, then have your Essentiale during.

Hey BT

Henru has pretty much answered it all,

I’m new here so my input may be taken with a pinch of salt, but here we go anyways

1. Don’t use letro straight away. It’s like stubbing your toe and then using morphine for the pain. Way overkill. Look into other AI’s like Arimidex. You could also look at running some proviron on cycle (binds to SHBG strongly, and has anti estrogenic properties). Furthermore letro will make you feel like absolute death (dosage dependent though).

2. Glutes - I prefer 23g 1 1/4 inch... Delts 26g 13mm or you could use a slin needle and backload it if you don’t mind refilling etc

3. HCG is sub-q injection... as Henru said, around the naval area (my new favorite for these shots is actually into the skin by the love handles). Also a good idea to run it on cycle (keeps the “fellas” functioning)

4. Aim to keep blood levels constant with the dbol... best to try split the dosage of one tablet every 3 to 5 hours (assuming they are 10mg tabs). If I remember correctly that is the half life of dbol but I could be off slightly.

5. Signs of gyno, best to watch this closely and take action before it worsens... so if you feel sensitivity in your nipples etc. Dbol is 17aa so it is liver toxic, best to run your liver support (Liv-52 etc) and also keep your water intake high.

As Henru mentioned, your body fat is quite high for this type of cycle, so might be wise to reconsider the dbol

Good luck!!

Whats your age and dosages planned ?

Hi oupa

I am 36.My dosages are planned as per the sample cycle on this website.

At 36, I would start the test so long at once a week 250mg dosages. Clean your diet up or add 1 or 2 days cardio a week.

When you have leaned out, and saved some muscle thx to the test, then think of adding a dbol.