First time tren usage

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07 Mar 2019 09:13 #219126 by Tremere
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What would you guys reckon would be the lowest dose of tren to use as a first-time tren user?

I was thinking along the lines of 0.5ml Supercut mix plus 0.5ml test prop EOD giving me:
50mg Tren
50mg Mast
100mg Test Prop

8 week cycle

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07 Mar 2019 09:14 #219127 by Tremere
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Still in the planning phase.. not yet cast in stone

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07 Mar 2019 14:26 #219134 by Oupa
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Have u used Masteron before?

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07 Mar 2019 14:50 - 07 Mar 2019 14:51 #219135 by Tremere
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Oupa wrote: Have u used Masteron before?


No Oupa I haven't. Would you suggest I do a Test and Masteron cycle only?

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07 Mar 2019 14:53 #219136 by Oupa
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Have you used NPP or Deca ?

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07 Mar 2019 14:57 #219137 by Tremere
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Oupa wrote: Have you used NPP or Deca ?


No, I haven't yet. I am just running different scenarios in my mind. I am pretty sure that I will not do tren at this stage, I am just trying to get all the facts first.

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07 Mar 2019 15:14 #219138 by Oupa
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You not ready for these compounds, dont be stupid.

Run Test & Npp for 8 - 10 weeks, and see how your body responds to 19nor steroids. If you want to stretch the cycle, add Masteron from week 8 to 14 and then PCT...

You will learn alot about how your body responds to these compounds before you move to Tren. Tren & Masteron combined is another animal physiologically all together...

You have a chance to do it right... so do it right, dont fuck it up.
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07 Mar 2019 15:24 #219139 by Tremere
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Oupa wrote: Run Test & Npp for 8 - 10 weeks, and see how your body responds to 19nor steroids.


Would you suggest I use Cabaser or similar throughout the cycle or just have it in case?

I think I will go Test and NPP, and add Masteron on a next cycle.

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07 Mar 2019 16:05 #219140 by SamZ4000
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Add caber at 1tab every week for the length of your cycle. Eg. If you planned cycle is 8weeks. Get 8 tabs of caber.

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07 Mar 2019 18:29 #219141 by Oupa
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Tremere wrote:

Oupa wrote: Run Test & Npp for 8 - 10 weeks, and see how your body responds to 19nor steroids.


Would you suggest I use Cabaser or similar throughout the cycle or just have it in case?

I think I will go Test and NPP, and add Masteron on a next cycle.


Do get Cabaser, but dont run it because some dont need it. The idea here is to get to know how you respond to prolactin increasing steroids and know what to expect. So keep that on hand always.

Your next cycle you can use the blend, at least then you know and we can guide you through kak if you go on the Cut blend next cycle.
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08 Mar 2019 08:09 #219144 by Tremere
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Thank you Oupa. I am going to start the cycle in about 2 months. Will shout if I run into any issues.

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08 Mar 2019 13:36 #219147 by Oupa
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Cool, chat then.
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15 Jul 2019 10:27 #220029 by Tremere
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So I am planning on starting the cycle end of the month. It is going to be 1.5ml test prop and 1ml NPP e2d. I will be using HD, so dosage is 150mg test prop and 100mg NPP e2d. I have Cabaser on hand.

What signs must I look out for regarding prolactin related issues?

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15 Jul 2019 13:24 #220032 by Oupa
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1. Soft cock , depression & negative mindset , tired , nipples lactating , insomnia


2. Runny tummy , nausia , acne & shit is normal for kickoff if your not used to it
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17 Jul 2019 08:19 #220038 by Nate40
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Good luck man.
If possible, please can we not use abbreviations. And also just be certain when discussing ml or mg. Makes it very confusing for those trying to learn. Thanks man

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17 Jul 2019 15:17 #220042 by Tremere
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Which abbreviations are you referring to?

test = testosterone
npp = Nandrolone phenylpropionate
e2d = every second day

You will see that I do specify ml when I'm referring to the amount of liquid, and mg when referring to the amount of steroid within the liquid :-)

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18 Jul 2019 15:07 #220045 by Tremere
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Oupa wrote: 1. Soft cock , depression & negative mindset , tired , nipples lactating , insomnia


2. Runny tummy , nausia , acne & shit is normal for kickoff if your not used to it


Thanks Oupa.

I dont get any sides from Test alone. By adding the NPP, will that affect estrogen sides or not?

When would be wise to use the cabaser? First sign of milk dripping from my tits, or what? Because being tired and having insomnia is normal lol.

Thanks for the help so far Oupa
I'm not trying to be spoonfed here, just dont want any issues :P

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19 Jul 2019 10:46 #220047 by Oupa
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You will know when your body is not in sync with your cycle, if you using 2 x 19nor hormones, i recommend maintenance cabaser @ 0.5mg e5d.
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20 Jul 2019 07:18 - 20 Jul 2019 07:19 #220054 by Nate40
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That's great. Thanks man. I think us old timers just battle with the abbreviations and short hand style. No offence

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20 Jul 2019 08:18 #220056 by Tremere
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No worries bro, none taken.

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14 Sep 2020 15:41 #223536 by Tremere
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So I have done this cycle a while back (150mg Prop and 100mg NPP E2D, and I have added Mast to the mix) with zero side effects. I am now planning cycle that will start in January 2021.

@ Oupa, I am going to go with Prop and Tren A separate, not the blend. What would you advise the Tren dosage should be, seeing as I am first time Tren user? And cycle length? There is way too many mixed opinions out there, and like you said, I want to do it right.

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