4th Cycle Log.

A quick update before I get into this;

Been training natural for 6 months now, albeit for the last 45 or so days been on MK677. I can honestly recommend training on MK677 post cycle if you want to stay off for a while or perhaps forever.

I actually, through diet and training got pretty damn close to my previous strength levels. Granted this was on Test, Deca and Oral Tren with a Tbol bridge. I'm currently 5 kg's under where I was on bench press. Which to me, is freaking unbelievable. I've been eating like a champion though and been doing a strict low rep powerlifting routine, which is quite different from my usual 5x5.

I plan to carry this routine into my next cycle.

I feel good, strong, sex drive is good. No injuries. This seems like a good place to start.
In terms of looks, because I weigh the same, I look visually very similar, but my delts and traps are definitely smaller and my pumps aren't so intense nor am I as vascular. Delts especially, damn they blew up last cycle.

So this is my forecasted cycle; It's going to be a long one.

HD Labs sustaject 325mg. 0.8mls twice a week. This would be 520mg/week for 16 weeks.
I might actually go up from here, I've never gone above 500mg test/week and feel like my current strength levels could handle a higher dose, but I wouldn't go above 600/week.

PGW Boldenone 350mg. 0.9mls twice a week. This would be 630mg/week for 16 weeks.
(however, if Bold is the same as deca I will run test 2 weeks longer than the Boldenone).
This is my first Boldenone cycle so if you think this is too high let me know, I know 500-700 seems to be the norm.

Kickstarter: well it's sustaject so I don't really need to add one, but I'll be doing Tbol for 4 weeks at 40mg/day.

PCT starts 29 days after last pin.

HCG 500iu/wk from weeks 2-14

I prefer to use Aromasin as my AI, once every 4 days has been what I've done for my last 3 cycle and I've never had any issues with gyno that I can think of.

TL;DR
HD Sustaject 520mg/wk for 16 weeks
PGW Boldenone 630mg/wk for 14 weeks
LP Tbol 40mg/day for 4 weeks

Pretty much exactly what I want to start in August. Keen to see your results. Goodluck and keep us updated.

HCG for 12 weeks?

Sorry I copy pasted from my previous log.

Did my first pin yesterday. Feeling some pip today.
Did quads. Honestly was kinda nervous for some reason, had this feeling of hoo boy here we go again.

Gonna do delts, is 1.7ml too much for delts?

I always get crazy PIP in my quads. Usually my best bet is my shoulders but every now and then I get something wrong and I can barely move my arm up and down. I've done more than 1.5ml into my shoulder though without pain. I think it depends on the compound though...not sure.

I'm wondering if 9 days is too early to feel something already. Perhaps not with sustaject and orals.
Something interesting I noticed is that I've started feeling good, like I've got more energy, could just be placebo, but I'm not sure. The only thing I can think of is when people say they have less 'brain fog' on test, but iirc this usually happens to people with lower test, so it's a possibility my test levels were a bit shot after my last cycle. But I'll need to monitor this to be sure.

things that are more definitive though;
My weight spiked up by 0.8 kg's, could just be fluctuation, but worth noting.
I hit a 5kg PR on OHP
My sex drive is already increasing
Getting better pumps

Normal with the test you are using, means your product sounds legit.

What's the census on dealing with an injury on cycle?

Try to work around it? Or come off and do a PCT and reassess once healed? I think it depends on the severity, but I'm no expert.

I've flared up a combination of tennis and golfers elbow (tendonitis in both sides of the right forearm). I work with my hands all day and I'm assuming the increased load of training just caused something to flare up.

Been monitoring it for 4 days now, I can still lift heavy, but it causes a lot of pain, especially after my workout and I worry about tearing something.

I can try going lighter/doing rehab for 2-3 weeks and see from there, 2-3 weeks in a 16 week cycle isn't that bad. But god, I need to stay focused. It's really hard for me to get out of the strength training mentality. I love moving heavy weight.

I once recalled someone getting shin splints here on cycle and they did a full PCT and came off. That is why I ask.

Other than that, I'm full, get really nice pumps now and feel really good aside from this darn arm.

I would suggest complete rest from push exercises for 2 weeks and reassess. Don't risk aggravating it. You can't 'rehab' tendonitis by doing exercises involving the affected tendons except for very light movements to increase blood flow to the injury. If your plan is to still go for ohp and benchpress PRs a month I would rethink that now. 1-3 rep maxes are going to fuck you up if you're doing them every week.

Wear some decent elbow support with good compression. You can probably can still do heavy deadlifts with straps. Get an extra day of squats in!

Muscleaddict wrote: I would suggest complete rest from push exercises for 2 weeks and reassess. Don't risk aggravating it. You can't 'rehab' tendonitis by doing exercises involving the affected tendons except for very light movements to increase blood flow to the injury. If your plan is to still go for ohp and benchpress PRs a month I would rethink that now. 1-3 rep maxes are going to fuck you up if you're doing them every week.

Wear some decent elbow support with good compression. You can probably can still do heavy deadlifts with straps. Get an extra day of squats in!

Absolutely, I appreciate that advice MA. I'll take it easy for 2 weeks. Rather safe than sorry.
Time for these legs to grooowww then.

Sorry guys, been meaning to keep this updated. but been super busy with life.
I'm 7~ weeks in now. Started HCG last week.

the good news;
-I'm 100% recovered from my injury and making PR's. I took it easy for 3 weeks and then eased into it.
-EQ has fully hit me and it's really strong.
-I managed a 5kg PR on Bench Press, I was so darn happy with this. I did 155kg x 2 reps and could feel, could just feel, I know I can do 160. But I held off, juuust in case in reinjury. Hit 160kg x 1, 4 days later. Was a great day, I felt so accomplished.
Considering that my last cycle was quite harsh (test/deca/oral tren) I'm really happy that I was able to hit a PR.
-I've picked up 5.2 kg's

the eh news;
-I think EQ gives me anxiety. It's hard to describe exactly how I feel. More tense? More afraid? I don't know.
-Elevated heartrate - could be linked to the anxiety, I'm not sure. But often I will feel like my heartrate is just high considering the circumstances I am in. I'll be sitting in my chair and I can just feel, heart is beating quite hard.
I do drink a lot of caffeine, so perhaps the two are just feeding off of each other. Too many stimulants.
-My testicles have shrunk slightly. This is the first time I've noticed this on cycle, I have a pretty good idea of the size/feel. I was always surprised when they didn't shrink. I'd heard story's of guys saying their testes got really small, sometimes even painful. I have no pain though. And this is merely part of the game, everything has side effects.

other;
My sex drive went up. but it's not nearly as high as it was on my previous cycle. Last time my sex drive was, man it was crazy. I literally became hyper sexual. Like I would be into things I'm usually not just because I would be that aroused.
I'm glad though, I like it as it is currently. Ready to go, but not overwhelming. I feel in control.

Nice going bud. Congrats on the PR. Just remember not to rush it even when you can feel you have the strength.don't want to risk another injury.

Nice going bro. Great feedback

Alright, some feedback and then I need some advice as well.

I been completely off about 3 weeks now, cycle was amazing, I hit a lot of PR's, I peaked during my bridge, probably because I added in otren and still had high amounts test/eq in my system. But when I say I peaked, I mean like really peaked. I just was stronger in every way possible, lifted heavier for more reps on every exercise I did. It wasn't massive leaps, usually 5kg's or an extra rep or two, but considering I'd been doing maximal effort work for the entire duration of the cycle thus far - that kind of gain certainly doesn't go unnoticed.

I wasn't originally going to run otren, but I still had some left and I didn't plan out a bridge - so i utilized it there. I am however very wary of it, it is very toxic and I never ran more than 20mg/day of it.

Now for the advice part.

I been talking to a very renowned power-lifting and bodybuilding coach who offers online coaching.
He thinks I have potential, and so do I, to be honest. But there's a caveat, he wants to me to take a 45 day break, let me re-sensitize to all substances and then start me on a new protocol. He wants to me 'blast and cruise', not the bodybuilder style b/c, but a more strength oriented one, less harsh on the body with lower overall doses, but he doesn't want me to actually come off completely, except for two 45 day breaks per year/depending on how blood work looks.

And I mean I understand, but I want another opinion on this. I haven't actually decided anything yet. I'm not old (soon to be 29), but also not young, if I want to compete and do well I feel like this is the make or break time.

The way I understand it, time spent recovering and doing PCT does obviously negatively affect your progress, but you do need to come off at some point. Just to recover and let your body heal.

Up until this point I've followed time on = time off and it's worked alright for me.

Hi Dru.

Hell bro at 29 that sound like a recipy to end up on TRT to me. I would also advocate time on cycle plus time on PCT should be the amount of time to take off. You would need to plan propper dridges to PCT to minimize loss of progress though.

Remeber all anabolics skew your Lipid Profile so also take that into consideration.