First Test Cyp cycle

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10 Sep 2019 13:31 #220311 by JayKay35
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Hi Gents,

So after loads and loads of research. I have decided to run my first test cycle in the near future as per the sample cycles recommended here
But had a few questions that maybe the more experienced members could advise on.

Will run a 12 week cycle of test C only as its my first cycle and want to start very basic
I am 35 years young and have been training solid for 5 years,
Height is 175 and currently weigh 77kgs (Usually 73kgs but just finished and 8 week LGD cycle and put on some decent lean mass)
Body fat is probably about 15% at the moment

- Should i run 500 per week (split 250/250) of test cyp or would it be better to maybe start off a bit lower and then access?
- Will i need to to run PCT1 or PCT2 for this basic cycle
- I know i need and AI on hand, should i take EOD from the start or not

Will do pre and post bloods

Anything i may be missing would be greatly appreciated. My training and diet is on point but will increase calories when cycle starts.
Looking forward to your feedback gentlemen

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10 Sep 2019 22:31 - 10 Sep 2019 22:31 #220319 by lobo
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I wouldnt go less than 500mg test per wk, is a good first cycle dose.

Pct 1 will be sufficient

See how you go in terms of estrogen if need be take the Ai,get to know your body and dose the AI accordingly.
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11 Sep 2019 07:33 #220322 by JayKay35
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Thanks for the reply LOBO, much appreciated. With regards to the AI. What would you suggest keeping on hand. Aromasin or Arimidex
Planning cycle for December so will get bloods done end of November to get a base line

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11 Sep 2019 08:39 - 11 Sep 2019 08:41 #220324 by lobo
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Iv always used Adex when I needed it in the past my doses are fairly low theses days so dont use any AI, you can go with either some prefer aromasin because it prevents rebound, I'd stick to those two leave the lentro. Getting some hcg would also be a good idea can run from wk 5 to just before you start pct.

Get those bloods done so you have a baseline of where you were at before any cycle, will regret it otherwise I made that mistake.
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11 Sep 2019 15:51 #220333 by JayKay35
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Thanks mate.

I appreciate the feedback. Looking at the sample cycles listed here. They have HCG during pct, not during cycle?
So should i run the 12 weeks at 500mg split and start HCg at week 5 until week 12. Then wait the 2 weeks and then start PCT without HCG? Looking at the main function of HCG during cycle I assume is to prevent atrophy etc during cycle.

Sorry for the questions, but planning your first cycle is quite a nerve racking thing and just want to make sure i have the safest and most effective cycle and recover well without losing gains made during cycle and looking worse off than when i started!

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12 Sep 2019 00:20 - 12 Sep 2019 00:24 #220334 by lobo
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No stress,we all started somewhere you in the right place, I owe this forum everything i know about gear and doing it the safest way possible....

Far as i know the hcg can conflict the pct meds but its not the end if the world if one did use it in pct...norm on here is to put it on cycle can run it at 500ius/wk split till 2 or 3 days before pct preps you for recovery and keeps your nuts ticking over it can raise estrogen so keep an eye on that and have your Ai on hand dont want to be scrambling if you need it.

Can pin your test mon and Thursday to keep stable bloods the more stability the better dont want highs and lows can cause issues, can do the hcg on the same days subcutaneous 250ius mon, Thursday.

So will just be clomid and nolva in pct, with the clomid can do 50mg per day for 14 days instead of 100mg for 7 days if you feel kak on it then follow up with the nolva. Give it at least 3 weeks before you start pct if you using a long ester test.

Get a decent brand of gear and you will be good to go dont have to look far!

Enjoy
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12 Sep 2019 13:30 #220344 by JayKay35
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Thanks Mate,

Much appreciated. I will run as you have suggested below and post update when cycle starts

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14 Sep 2019 07:55 #220360 by Hoosain
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500mg is a good dose to go with. However I just have a personal differing opinion. (Please note the word opinion as my opinion is not fact)

I'm of the opinion that you can get away with a lower does on tour first cycle and still get great results. From my own research and personal doing I've realised I can get away with doing a 300mg per week cycle and still get good results. With my research I've noticed that lower than 500mg doses used to be fine way back and that 500mg only became a "standard" for people wanting to grow big quickly without going high doses and risking more sides. Now if you look at cycles all over (not just this great site) you'll notice that people rarely go higher than 500mg and that 90% of the time it's the max recommended dose for a cycle.
So if you look at it from a different point of view... we're actually subjecting ourselves to the max recommended on each cycle. Now this does not mean 500mg is wrong, it just means that 500mg is a safe dose without getting too many sides.

So I've personally done a 300mg cycle and for quite a few guys have recommended and helped them with running a 300mg cycle as a first cycle and they've seen great results. So my personal opinion is that we shouldn't jump in at the higher 500mg from the word go and should start slow as a means to get good results and test our reaction to a compound.
Imagine doing 300mg and getting good results. Then second time around being satisfied that we didn't have side's, now bump up to 500mg and get more impressive results because your now bigger body would require a tad bit more than 300mg to give you good results.
I feel it's similar to our eating habits. The more we grow, the more calories we need to maintain that size.
I feel it's the same with test, a 70kg person should not be using the same dose as a 90kg person as the heavier person would need more to maintain /grow. I am strongly of the opinion this is why some guys complain about getting sides on the same dose, it's mainly because the 70kg brother in law was trying to use the same dose as I do at 90kg.

Once again, this is my personal opinion and not anything proven or tested. Just based on my own experience. You don't have to follow it but I always think people should think about these things when doing a cycle or even taking any type of compound into their bodies.

As for your cycle. If you do go with 500mg, you're also set for a super cycle bud. Ensure your training and eating is dialled in and you won't go wrong.
Ai side I personally prefer aromasin as there is no rebound with it.
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