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13 Feb 2020 09:53 #221119 by DrSynergy
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Hi guys

Long time lurker here

Need a bit of insight for my cycle but first a bit of background

Used to be addicted to gym, last 2 years have been a an unhealthy lifestyle in general
mostly due to workload, pvt work after hours and then studying as well.

Start of 2020 I got back in the gym

Age 32

Stats @ start
127kg
25% bf
Fairly active
Cardio in the mornings, hard weights 3 x times per week.

Current stats as of this weekend
121kg
19% bf
Same activity level, intensity went up a lot though

Got test cyp 3 weeks back
on 250mg p/w
Using arimidex @ 0.5 every other day to help with water retention

Started on Anavarbol from keifei this week @ 20mg @ 8hour intervals.

Diet consists of mostly chicken / ostrich / fish / Avo / fat free cottage cheese / oats / brown rice / salads / veggies / fruits

Split is Prot - 40% / Carbs - 40 % / Fat - 20%

When carb cycling , which is mostly non gym days
the split is
Prot - 45% / Carbs - 20% / Fat - 35%

Supplement intake
Vit D3
Milk Thistle
One Cycle support
Creatine
Flaxeed Oil x 3 daily
Apple cider vinegar x 2 daily

BP before starting to train jumped around from 140 - 150 / 80 - 90
Came down to low 130's / 80 - 85

This morning blood pressure shot up to 170 / 95

Now coming down again to 140's / 80's

Might be due to carb cycling at the moment and the higher prot and fat are putting a strain on my body?
Currently semi-nauseous

Any advice would be appreciated

Past cycles although a long while back consist of dianabol - test - tren

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13 Feb 2020 10:27 #221120 by Oupa
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@ 25% bodyfat, your body will take strain on steroids.

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13 Feb 2020 10:28 #221121 by DrSynergy
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Hi Oupa

Thanks for the reply.

What would you advise for my way forward ?

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13 Feb 2020 11:35 #221122 by DrSynergy
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Hi Oupa

Am I dropping the test cyp and var and starting pct?

Have arimidex and clomid on hand

Starting test and var again @ 15% bf ?

Thanks for your assistance.

Oupa wrote: @ 25% bodyfat, your body will take strain on steroids.

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13 Feb 2020 16:01 #221128 by Oupa
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I would say go have some bloods done. I have blood issues with Anavar, cant use it at all. Any other compound works for me. Maybe you have the same issue.
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13 Feb 2020 16:29 #221134 by DrSynergy
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Alright, do I just rock up at my doc and ask him for the necessary tests ?

Tried lancet and ampath to ask them for the forms before hand.
Both got back to me and just told me they don't give them before hand anymore.

On a side note, how do I send a pvt message

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14 Feb 2020 10:57 #221156 by Hoosain
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Find my thread on anavar cycle and try to follow the advice from there.

Hint, advice suggests a lot of reading lol.

Also don’t just start pct immediately after dropping test, wait for it to clear as you would when completing a Cycle.
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14 Feb 2020 11:23 #221159 by skinnysteroidscientist
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You have to get your BP in check. risky BP that one wrong move like smoking too much or alcohol and it could cause problems. id go get my blood work done.

Var does have an effect on my BP for some reason. Im extremely lean tho 8% bdf when im in minor caloric surplus. So it could be that.

I dont believe in doing the whole treat side effects of meds with more meds or drugs. but maybe use water pills. could help and i say it again COULDDDDD!!!

Maybe decrease protein intake of fast absorbtion rate. like red meats etc.

OR ...

Do the opposite. drop the var and drink more water. either one COULD WORK!!! i used to do this as a kid with hypertension due to ritalin and stuff my parents stuffed me with

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14 Feb 2020 11:27 #221160 by jackrabbit1
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250mg/week is low. Free test will probably sit at around 1200 eventually.
I'd just drop the carbs a bit more.... or drop it totally for 2-3 weeks.
Drop the variable - Anavar, AI.
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14 Feb 2020 11:37 #221162 by DrSynergy
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At the moment the plan is to drop the arimidex and var for the time being.
Getting bloods done early next week and take it from there, I felt great on test alone.

Now, slightly flu like symptoms. (Maybe actually have flu)

After bloods are good, the plan is to introduce var again and see how I take it

If all is good from there on, i'll up the dosage to 500mg of test per week.
Looking to do a total of around 12 weeks

Diet is currently very consistent

Eating around 2500 calories to be in deficit of around 20% of my BMR

Will decide the course of action after my bloods come back and with input from forum members as well.

Thanks for the advice so far guys

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14 Feb 2020 14:53 - 14 Feb 2020 14:53 #221168 by 00pump
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The Adex is quite an aggressive dose and I'm pretty certain your estrogen is non existent, that could very well be the reason for you feeling the flu or having the flu. I'm on a similar dose but with a large dose of HCG for fertility and also on the edge of flu. On that dose of test 0.5 adex twice a week was the dose I needed for balanced estrogen levels and this is for someone who is very estrogen prone.

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14 Feb 2020 14:58 #221169 by DrSynergy
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This is giving some valuable insight, been trying to figure out why I have been feeling under the weather. Obviously bloods would clarify but have never before felt like this, and the adex is the only compound I haven't used before.

Thank you

The adex should be out of my system hopefully soon.

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14 Feb 2020 15:04 #221173 by 00pump
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DrSynergy wrote: This is giving some valuable insight, been trying to figure out why I have been feeling under the weather. Obviously bloods would clarify but have never before felt like this, and the adex is the only compound I haven't used before.

Thank you

The adex should be out of my system hopefully soon.


It stores in the fatty tissue, will take a bit of time. If I ever overcook an aromatising inhibitor I get sick, every time. Its something you need to run for awhile and then get bloods and then adjust until you workout what dose you actually need. It's only taken me 20 years to workout the 'medical' dose I need ;) wish I took bloods many years ago for e2 while using X amounts of test.

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