Bulking and cutting in the same cycle

I just want to know if I should start a cycle with bulking steroids to add muscle mass and then add cutting steroids to get rid of water and add lean muscle. Any thoughts or suggestions as to what to do?

all steroids will add muscle mass, the difference comes in is your diet, if you are eating to grow you will grow, if you are eating to lose fat, you can still lose fat using bulking drugs. I did a show prep last year using Testosterone Cypionate.

The thing you need to look at is what do you want to achieve first?
Body recomposition is very dependant on your diet, if you are new to training, and if you are using steroids.

if you are about 12% body fat my suggestion is DIET DOWN FIRST and then consider using a cycle, the big thing is when body fat is too high, your body converts more testosterone to estrogen, your insulin sensitivity is affected, and you will be at risks of hypertension.

your need to give us the following breakdown, AND WITH THE MOST DETAIL POSSIBLE.

your current daily calorie intake as well as the macro break down

your current training schedule, list exercises, reps, sets, and weights used.

your current stats such as Height age weight body fat%

your history of steroid use.

After many months of hard work and dieting I can finally reply. I'm 21 years old not genetically gifted at all. Very small hands feet and wrists.

Calories(weight loss): 2000
Macros: 40% carbs
30% fats
30% protein
Weight: 80kg
Height: 1.78m
Training: 6 days per week, 2 muscle groups per day,cardio abs and calves in the mornings heavy free weight and machine training in the afternoons.
Sets: 4
Reps: 10-20 range depending on the weights
Superset shoulders and arms.
Body fat: 19% still trying to get down. Can't get rid of love handles I've had all my life. I was at 30% during lockdown. Only been training for a few weeks now.

I'm aiming to start a course where I gain a lot of weight and muscle any suggestions. Also please just advise me by how much my calories need to increase. Thanks

Empire wrote: if you are about 12% body fat my suggestion is DIET DOWN FIRST and then consider using a cycle, the big thing is when body fat is too high, your body converts more testosterone to estrogen, your insulin sensitivity is affected, and you will be at risks of hypertension.

I can't stress this enough. You should be in ok shape when you start using steroids, not using steroids to get into normal, healthy shape. The fatter you are the more side effects you will get from steroids. You're 21. Unless you have hormonal problems it will never be easier in your life to get lean and gain muscle than it is in your early 20s.

Of course you will gain muscle, but most guys who take steroids still look like crap even after a few cycles and that comes down to not learning how to eat and train properly first, and having unrealistic expectations of what steroids do. If one can't get to 12-13% body fat without steroids, don't expect to get ripped even after a few cycles.

Thank you for the advice. I'm aiming to be at 15% before starting. I've been training for nearly 8 years now never really gained much at all. Took 1 cycle at 25% bf and got very good gains 20kgs to be exact. Wasn't training properly or having a good diet. I struggle to build muscle even with a very good diet. My hormones are fine at a normal level so that's not it. Took another 2 cycles same results with poor diet and training. Now that I've got a good diet and training regime I feel like I could gain more than that.

I'm not aiming to look ripped or chiseled to the bone with veins popping. Just looking to put on good mass and not look bloated during and after the cycle.