Test E and Tren E

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03 May 2009 18:00 #13124 by Alfred
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Running Tren E (315mg per week) and Test E (420mg per week) with 50mg Proviron daily.
Apparently Tren lowers T3, which in turn keeps prolactin/progest at bay.
Do I need to use T3 and at which dosage?Only 3 weeks into cycle. Not feeling any kick yet, but starting to feel out of breath and tired between sets.
Any help from experienced users of similar cycle please!
Age 43
Height 1.71m
Weight 85
Body Fat 8%

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03 May 2009 20:10 #13131 by Alfred
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Another question: I thought of using Nolvadex during cycle to keep my lipid profile healthy since I have hereditary hypercholesterolemia. Some say it will limit gains while on AAS. Is it a good idea? My HDL really takes a beating when I'm on cycle.

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03 May 2009 20:12 #13133 by Lesa
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Tren does that big time makes you unfit and its bad for fast impact sports. A friend of mine is doing UFC and he uses tren but he claims the lab that repacks it took out the impurities . Personally i think hes talking non sense but ill tell you for sure tren makes you unfit. I would be very careful with T3 mate thyroid hormones are dangerous stuff and if something goes wrong you could end up being a fat slob your whole life.

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03 May 2009 21:29 #13136 by admin
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Alfred wrote:

Apparently Tren lowers T3, which in turn keeps prolactin/progest at bay.
Do I need to use T3 and at which dosage?


No, it over stimulates your thyroid gland to produce more T3, so that is part of the reason Tren is a good cutting drug. You really don't want to exceed 20-25mcg T3 per day while using Tren.

I have no idea how T3 can lower progesterone? That doesn't make sense at all... :blink:

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03 May 2009 21:30 #13137 by Alfred
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I'm using PGW, nonetehless Tren is a toxic substance and if one chooses to use it, one must take the necessary precautions. There is no wonder drug. For something to be that Androgenic/anabolic there must be side effects. Never heard of UFC

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03 May 2009 21:37 #13138 by admin
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Alfred wrote:

Another question: I thought of using Nolvadex during cycle to keep my lipid profile healthy since I have hereditary hypercholesterolemia. Some say it will limit gains while on AAS. Is it a good idea? My HDL really takes a beating when I'm on cycle.


Firstly, you can't use T3 with Tren and secondly you can't use Nolvadex with Tren!!

The Nolvadex will give you some nice lactating gyno (boobs) if used with a 19-nor substance like Trenbolone or Nandrolone.

In other words: Estrogen (Including SERMs) + progesterone (Including 19-NOR) = Big breasts with milk!

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03 May 2009 21:56 #13139 by Alfred
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This makes sense thank you. Can I still use the Nolva for PCT then?

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03 May 2009 22:13 #13140 by Alfred
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Also in your opinion do I need anything else on this cycle? I have Bromocryptin/Parlodel. Should I only use that if it becomes necessary? Also have Letro available. But apparently it does nothing for Prog/prolactin..

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04 May 2009 06:45 #13142 by admin
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You can still use Kessar, Clomid and Pregnyl for PCT... but wait until after the Tren E left your system...

Letro and Bromo is fine to keep on hand in case gyno becomes a problem.

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04 May 2009 07:34 #13143 by jackrabbit1
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Hey Admin, i think he got the info from here www.steroid.com/Trenbolone-Acetate.php .

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Ironically, even though Tren is an excellent contest prep drug, it lowers your thyroid level(23), and this raises prolactin. I recommend taking T3 (25mcgs/day) along with your Tren to avoid elevating your prolactin too high via this route.

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04 May 2009 08:45 #13145 by admin
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jackrabbit1 wrote:

Hey Admin, i think he got the info from here www.steroid.com/Trenbolone-Acetate.php .

Anthony Roberts wrote:

Ironically, even though Tren is an excellent contest prep drug, it lowers your thyroid level(23), and this raises prolactin. I recommend taking T3 (25mcgs/day) along with your Tren to avoid elevating your prolactin too high via this route.


Yep, that must be it. Wonder how AR got to that conclusion? I still don't see the connection between Thyroids and progesterone...

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04 May 2009 09:05 #13146 by steroido
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so if tren makes you that unfit, what's the point of using it if you wont even be able to walk to the shops or have some good energetic sex?

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04 May 2009 09:10 #13147 by Alfred
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Thank you for your input Admin. I appreciate your help. There is very conflicting info out there and yes, this is exactly where I got the info re Tren and T3. Seen some negative things about AR. Must a person rather avoid his articles? I'm new to all of this. What is interesting is that they publish his articles in the Muscle Evolution Magazine...

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04 May 2009 11:22 #13161 by admin
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Alfred wrote:

Thank you for your input Admin. I appreciate your help. There is very conflicting info out there and yes, this is exactly where I got the info re Tren and T3. Seen some negative things about AR. Must a person rather avoid his articles? I'm new to all of this. What is interesting is that they publish his articles in the Muscle Evolution Magazine...


You don't have to avoid his articles, but always read as much as you can from different people. Always the best to have more opinions.

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04 May 2009 13:42 #13174 by ogre
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Im using tren e 375mg and test e 300 mg and i can walk to the shops lol

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04 May 2009 13:48 #13175 by ogre
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sorry thats 600mg test e

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04 May 2009 13:50 #13176 by steroido
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but how fast can you shag? and for how long.... :)

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04 May 2009 15:31 #13185 by ogre
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Hmmm i let you know tomorrow lol,seriously i have not noticed any change in that area.

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04 May 2009 16:10 #13190 by admin
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Tren A affects breathing and heart rate more than Tren E.

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05 May 2009 14:53 #13249 by Lesa
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tren = great competition gear (bodybuilding) . But if you doing any other sport that requires fitness dont even touch it.

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