!st cycle help

I need help doing my 1st cycle,i've read alot on the www,but theres way too many conflicting opinions for me to make an informed decision on my own.All i want is an extra 5 - 8kg,nothing more,and to drop to about 5% body fat.I dont wana make any huge gains,and i want to avoid water retension at all costs.Im going to do an ORAL ONLY cycle,cos im shit scared of needles.I have access to D-Bol,T-Bol and Anavar.So i need help deciding how to go about popping these pills.For PCT i was thinking of Clomid and arimidex

my stats below:
Weight: 65kg (hard-gainer)
Height: 1.72m
Body Fat: 12%
Training Period: 25 months
Diet: 120g protein daily,100g carbs,15g fat

ok dude, first of all the reason why u are a hard gainer is cos of your diet....u should look at dieting properly for 6 months before even considering a cycle...that will put u in the right direction.120g of protein a day is nothing.. and 100g of carbs and 15g fats? how do u intend on getting muscle put on to the frame when u are basically just chewing card board? u need to feed the body in order to grow and u havent been doing that so going on a cycle is the last place u need to be going...i can help u out with a diet but i do charge but i can tell u right now that u will be able to gain alot from it..email me at EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED

Thanks for the answer.About the juice,are the ones i mentioned any good? and what type of dosage would be ideal

bro did u not read my reply...forget about the juice for now,go on a proper diet first...u will get the results u are looking for when u start eating properly..

What dj said.... but with the above mentioned.. you WILL get water retention. Why scared of needles, oral only is actually harsher on the body. Don't be such a pussy man

Fair enough,point taken

How old are you rake ?

I agree with dj, you need to eat more, much more.

by insisting on ONLY orals, you really are limiting yourself.. seriously!

djeasye wrote:

bro did u not read my reply...forget about the juice for now,go on a proper diet first...u will get the results u are looking for when u start eating properly..

Dj,
There are guys out there that are desperate, so you can advise and warn until you're blue in the face, they WILL go on cycle.

P.S. Who The F_ _K minused my karma? I am not aware that I made shit or gave a bad reply or review anywhere......

well if they are not gonna take the correct advice from people who sort've know what they are doing then they must fuck off somewhere else and find some cunt thats gonna fuck up their bodies for them good and proper... if u dont start with basics like nutrition how are u expecting to get anywhere...its like trying to build a house using sand and water and no bricks and cement...all u gonna get is a slushy mound with no structure....

be informed before u start playing with juice.

North_boy1 i will up it for u

Dj, well said and very true. When I started with cycle three years ago I was one of THEM. It cost me money and helped F_CKALL !!
Thanks !!!

Agreed.
NO WHERE NEAR READY FOR GEAR.
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anopollon 200 mgs every day for 6 months..... Just kidding bro you far from ready to play with juice. train naturally eat hard and do a lot of basic powerlifting excercises like squats deadlifts bench etc. At first you will find it hard to eat a lot but stomach is the same as a muscle the more you train it the better it gets at eating. good luck man