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10 Jun 2009 17:22 #15373 by vega5
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Hi guys. I'm currently on a cycle of 875mg Test (diff esters) + 350mg Equi per week. This is more to gain some lean muscle before next years season.
I would like to use 100mg Test prop EOD, 150mg Tren E4D, 50mg Winny EOD for 4 weeks after my 10 weeks on the current cycle to solidify the gains as I think Tren E is the best steroid on the market. But I would also like to use Masteron mainly cause' I've never used it before and would like to see how it works.

So my questions are: 1. How long do I wait after the 10 week cycle to start injecting the short ester products (Prop & Tren)?
2. Do I run another 4 weeks Masteron and Prop or include it with the Prop & Tren 4 weeks?

I hope this all makes sense.

Just something else. I've always used Kessar when getting gyno but there's big talk on Letro. Could somebody give me the reasons (in layman's terms) why I would want to use Letro instead of Kessar?

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10 Jun 2009 18:01 #15375 by jackrabbit1
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Vega dude, do you always hang paintings that low in your house or are you tilting your head forward because youre touching the ceiling?

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10 Jun 2009 18:11 #15376 by vega5
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That pic was taken about a week after we moved into our new place and I kind of screwed up hanging the paintings.

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11 Jun 2009 15:49 #15479 by Netro
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vega5 wrote:

Hi guys. I'm currently on a cycle of 875mg Test (diff esters) + 350mg Equi per week. This is more to gain some lean muscle before next years season.
I would like to use 100mg Test prop EOD, 150mg Tren E4D, 50mg Winny EOD for 4 weeks after my 10 weeks on the current cycle to solidify the gains as I think Tren E is the best steroid on the market. But I would also like to use Masteron mainly cause' I've never used it before and would like to see how it works.

So my questions are: 1. How long do I wait after the 10 week cycle to start injecting the short ester products (Prop & Tren)?
2. Do I run another 4 weeks Masteron and Prop or include it with the Prop & Tren 4 weeks?

I hope this all makes sense.

Just something else. I've always used Kessar when getting gyno but there's big talk on Letro. Could somebody give me the reasons (in layman's terms) why I would want to use Letro instead of Kessar?


Bro, I agree with the short esters, but why Tren E? Why not Tren Ace? Better suited for your application and still Tren. You can start straight after your 10 weeks and you cycle would be 14 weeks then. PCT 3 days after last shot. Masteron and winny is not needed, either or IMO and would rather use the Masteron. Masteron will solidify your gains nicely and would start Masteron in the last 2 weeks of your Equi and Test phase. Keep to EOD shots in teh last 4 weeks of the cycle. You should be injecting the Equi and Test 2 x per week and jsut slot the Masteron in there.

Why Letro and not Kessar:
Kessar may cause issues with the Tren due to progesterone sides.
Letro is way more potent as an anti-e.
Letro works out allot more economical on the pocket.

There are more, but if those don't sell you then nothing will.

It is good to have both just in case, maybe Kessar in teh first 10 weeks if aromatising occurs and Letro in the last and PCT.

What is your PCT looking like?

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13 Jun 2009 13:29 #15581 by vega5
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Tren E because that's what's in my cupboard.

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14 Jun 2009 08:55 #15609 by vega5
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500IU HCG EOD for 3 weeks, 100mg Clomid for 6 days then 50mg for 8 days, and now it seems like Letro for ?

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15 Jun 2009 10:39 #15630 by Netro
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Sorry, don't understand the question

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15 Jun 2009 11:52 #15640 by Novice!
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I think, run the letro for the duration of the tren and a few weeks into PCT.. dosage 0.5mg?? Neto?

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15 Jun 2009 12:36 #15648 by Netro
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Last 2 weeks if you follow my advice on 14 weeks and 2 weeks into PCT. This would also depend on gyno, otherwise you can use as part of you PCT
Below are the standard daily dosages used:
On-cycle gyno prevention: 0.25mg to 0.5mg (5 to 10 drops)
On-cycle water retention prevention: 0.25mg to 0.5mg (5 to 10 drops)
Competition preparation: 1mg to 2mg (20 to 40 drops)
Gyno reversal: 2.5mg to 3mg (50 to 60 drops)
Every bottle contains 1500 drops (30ml)

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15 Jun 2009 14:09 #15659 by vega5
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Without understanding the question your answer was exactly what I was looking for.

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17 Jun 2009 11:00 #15745 by Netro
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vega5 wrote:

Without understanding the question your answer was exactly what I was looking for.


Novice deciphered it for me.
As long as the question was answered, all good

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05 Jul 2009 15:28 #16847 by vega5
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I started my cycle (first post on thread) four weeks ago and I've had flu for the last two so I've lost about 5 kgs. Would you suggest me just continuing the cycle and finishing as planned or do I extent it?

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06 Jul 2009 20:39 #16945 by Netro
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Did you still inject when sick?

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06 Jul 2009 20:54 #16947 by vega5
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I postponed the latest shot by 4 days till tonight 'cause I started feeling down and usually for me that's a sign that my system is getting low on test.

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06 Jul 2009 22:02 #16954 by Netro
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Well you have 2 options, either do a mini PCT and start again or go for a longer cycle, but you will have to take some proviron towards the end to help with high cortizol levels.
I would extend to 16 weeks, good if you doing Equi anyways.
Add some proviron last 3 - 4 weeks at 75mg p/day as well.

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07 Jul 2009 08:13 #16962 by vega5
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Cool. I think I'll extend the cycle. This however just raises three questions from my side.

1. Is it safe to keep vials that's in use for a next cycle because i won't be using everything in it. And for how long can you keep it?

2. How would you know if your cortizol levels gets a high?

3. Is Proviron available in SA at the pharmacy? Obviously you'll need a prescription.

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07 Jul 2009 09:38 #16973 by Netro
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1. Yes you can keep it, I work on 6 months.
2. Gains taper off is always a good sign, strength down
3. Yes and is scheduled

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07 Jul 2009 17:24 #17045 by vega5
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Netro wrote:

1. Yes you can keep it, I work on 6 months.
2. Gains taper off is always a good sign, strength down
3. Yes and is scheduled


I did some research and it seems like the trade name is also Proviron made by Schering, is that correct?.

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07 Jul 2009 19:41 #17055 by Netro
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That's the one, pics in the gallery

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14 Jul 2009 19:57 #17527 by vega5
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Netro wrote:

That's the one, pics in the gallery


Phoned the pharmacy and they only have it in 20 x 25mg packs and it's moer expensive. Is there more than one type?

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14 Jul 2009 21:36 #17534 by jackrabbit1
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Just ask your grocer!:)

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14 Jul 2009 21:58 #17535 by vega5
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Already contaced him and he doesn't have any broccoli but he does have Proviron.

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26 Jul 2009 16:49 #18346 by vega5
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So ... I've decided to call a halt to my current cycle because out of the last five weeks I was sick for two and away on business for one and i'm going away again next week.

I was thinking of waiting about 8-10 weeks and then go on a blitz cycle of, Prop, Tren E and winny. What do you guys think what the will results be of such a blitz cycle when accompanied by a clear diet?

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26 Jul 2009 17:08 #18348 by Inja
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For a blitz cycle you are definately going to have to swap out the enantate for ace. Your tren just wont be worth it otherwise.

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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26 Jul 2009 17:19 #18349 by vega5
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Inja wrote:

For a blitz cycle you are definately going to have to swap out the enantate for ace. Your tren just wont be worth it otherwise.


I would love to but that's what I have in my stock. Will it have such a big impact?

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