new cycle plan (please help)

hi every1...

i've currently got sus250, tren ace 75, thailand danabol (blue hearts) and going to get pgw deca 350

i read sus and tren ace is fast acting so i got to inject eod (lets say mon,wed,fri) and i want to inject deca350 twice a week...

now my sus test will be 750mg/week(250x3), tren 225mg/week(75x3) and deca 700mg/week(350x2), because my test is 50mg(little) more than the deca, instead of about 200mg more will i experience any sides?

i read the test-to-deca ratio should be close to 2:1, my other cycles were 500mg test and 200mg deca

now the injections... since its eod, which gauge needles do i have to use? i was using 22g but i read 25g for eod, and wats is the risk possibility of scar tissue (very high or moderate)?


sorry for the long questions, thanks in advance

You cant use these 2 19-nors(Tren + Deca) together.

bro be careful when combining two 19 nor substances such as tren and deca together.... rather swop that deca for masteron...with your injection protocol,u can use the same size needle every time just alternate the injection sites in order to avoid the scar tissue issue.

i honestly think u need to change your approach, u want to inject long ester (deca) and u are taking short ester such as tren acetate,rather swop that deca for nandro prop but then i wouldnt run 2 19nors together so change that to masteron and will give u nice lean hard dry gains

shit i didnt plan well

the aim for my new cycle is too bulk up..

ill cut my loses on wat i dont need...

any advise wat to take / combine, i wanna keep the sus and tren, or do you think i should change my whole approach, if so wat do you advise

thanks again

I'd run everything as planned, minus the Deca. 6 Weeks? The DBol will add aa bit of Estrogen which is reported to help the Tren along on a bulking cycle.

jackrabbit1 wrote:

I'd run everything as planned, minus the Deca. 6 Weeks? The DBol will add aa bit of Estrogen which is reported to help the Tren along on a bulking cycle.

planning max 8 weeks.

can i mix tren + sus in one, like test + deca? or seperate injections?

All together. 8 weeks tren is pushing the recommended limit, but the dose isn't too high. DBol? How much? 8 weeks might be a bit long depending on the dosage.

jackrabbit1 wrote:

All together. 8 weeks tren is pushing the recommended limit, but the dose isn't too high. DBol? How much? 8 weeks might be a bit long depending on the dosage.

want to keep everything 8 weeks max, wat is the recommended period with dbol?

Normally DBol is run 4-6 weeks. But theories differ depending on dose. The higher the dose the shorter the time on.
So, what dose were you planning?

jackrabbit1 wrote:

Normally DBol is run 4-6 weeks. But theories differ depending on dose. The higher the dose the shorter the time on.
So, what dose were you planning?

betw 30-40mg / day.

previously used the same method, started off small then graudally increased the dose,

do you think the tren/sus/dbol will work well?

this is the first time changing from test/deca/dbol used on prev cycles

dbol 30-40 for 6 weeks. Max. No pyramid. Keep the dose the same from day 1. Split 3 or 4 times a day. Make sure you take liver support.
The combo will work well.
Tren sides are more than deca, but i'm sure at that reasonable dose you shouldn't experience any extremes.

if u are running 8 week max do this...

week 1-6
tren and sust
dbol 40mg daily.

week 6-8 week
50mg proviron
50mg winstrol/tbol/var ( choose which one u can afford)

week 9 start pct

djeasye wrote:

if u are running 8 week max do this...

week 1-6
tren and sust
dbol 40mg daily.

week 6-8 week
50mg proviron
50mg winstrol/tbol/var ( choose which one u can afford)

week 9 start pct

DJ, what gains do you think someone could get on a cycle like this?

ungaas bro,depends on the diet bro...

Mr_SA wrote:

djeasye wrote:

if u are running 8 week max do this...

week 1-6
tren and sust
dbol 40mg daily.

week 6-8 week
50mg proviron
50mg winstrol/tbol/var ( choose which one u can afford)

week 9 start pct

DJ, what gains do you think someone could get on a cycle like this?

How far can a dog run into the woods ?????

djeasye wrote:

if u are running 8 week max do this...

week 1-6
tren and sust
dbol 40mg daily.

week 6-8 week
50mg proviron
50mg winstrol/tbol/var ( choose which one u can afford)

week 9 start pct

var / anavar same thing? if so which brand do you recommend?

var and anavar are the same thing bro... LP or PGW is a good option to go for...

can i mix sus and tren in one syringe?

yes u can... but i would suggest injecting 1ml of sust with 1ml of tren every other day...u will need 20mls of tren and 20mls of sust.

djeasye wrote:

yes u can... but i would suggest injecting 1ml of sust with 1ml of tren every other day...u will need 20mls of tren and 20mls of sust.

ok cool got it

one more thing *sorry*

what makes tren have a bigger "edge" over deca?

tren is a wonder substance,it has a anabolic and androgenic ratio of 500/500 where deca is 120/40 ( around there not exact) tren is 5 time more anabolic and androgenic than test and doesnt aromatize. it gives good gains of strength,fat burning and hardening effects...

djeasye wrote:

tren is a wonder substance,it has a anabolic and androgenic ratio of 500/500 where deca is 120/40 ( around there not exact) tren is 5 time more anabolic and androgenic than test and doesnt aromatize. it gives good gains of strength,fat burning and hardening effects...

Yep great for strength/size but a shitty drug if u involved in any other sport xcept for bodybuilding as it makes you unfit. O yea also brilliant for hair loss and prostate issues too if you have any of those id stay away from tren if i was you.

Lesa wrote: O yea also brilliant for hair loss and prostate issues too if you have any of those id stay away from tren if i was you.[/quote]

:laugh: :laugh:

gonna be my first time on tren, so i hope 75mg eod is ok to start off with...i hope :blink:

kak is its the only way you know what ur body take handle etc... is by experimenting with advise from others ofcourse