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22 Jun 2009 10:22 #16110 by masterm
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sup fellas,

heres my cycle, i start next week.

week 1-5
Test Suspension, 2x week ( 100mg + 100mg)
decabol 1x week (250mg)
anavar 1x week (25mg)
week 1-3
s-drol (mon-fri) 30mg
week 1
anapolin 50mg (mon-friday)

maybe use some dbol in the 5th to 6 week. 50mg a day.

PCT:clomid, tamoxifen, hypertest, HCG.

What you think guys?

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22 Jun 2009 10:28 #16111 by Sting
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not too sure about the anavar cos thats a very low dose. I take 10mg a day and I'm a lady so it might be too low for you, just a personal hunch so I'll leave the answering about ur cycle to the big boys

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22 Jun 2009 10:31 #16112 by Sting
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Unless ur taking the anavar with the decabol

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22 Jun 2009 10:37 #16113 by Novice!
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bro , anavar, anapolan, sdrol and dbol isn't really a good idea.. you'll shit your liver out after 3weeks of those orals..
And the Decabol would shut you down nice and hard but 5weeks wouldn't be long enough to get gains

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22 Jun 2009 10:39 #16114 by DoberMan
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masterm wrote:

sup fellas,

heres my cycle, i start next week.

week 1-5
Test Suspension, 2x week ( 100mg + 100mg)
decabol 1x week (250mg)
anavar 1x week (25mg)
week 1-3
s-drol (mon-fri) 30mg
week 1
anapolin 50mg (mon-friday)

maybe use some dbol in the 5th to 6 week. 50mg a day.

PCT:clomid, tamoxifen, hypertest, HCG.

What you think guys?


Anavar once a week? Dude, it needs to be taken twice a day due to its short half life. Test suspension to be taken EOD. There's all sorts of issues with this cycle.

Now, what's your age, weight, BF, is this your first cycle etc etc

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22 Jun 2009 10:44 #16115 by masterm
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the anavar is mixed with the deca, its oil based.
test suspension has a half life of 2-3 days so shooting mon + thursday,
the 1st week will be 50mg anapolin + 10mg sdrol
week2-3 is 30mg s-drol.
im still contemplating using dbol or sdrol

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22 Jun 2009 10:45 #16116 by DoberMan
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Whatever the half life is of a substance, divide that by 2, and thats the amount of days between shots you should have. If not, then you will not keep your blood levels stable.

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22 Jun 2009 10:46 #16117 by masterm
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2nd cycle

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22 Jun 2009 10:49 #16118 by DoberMan
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Oh, and stay away from the Anapolin. The shit gives you serious sides, and you keep nothing really from it. Use DBol, or even Tbol. I just used TBol in my cycle, and enjoyed not having to carry around excess water

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22 Jun 2009 10:49 #16119 by masterm
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the deca has the deconate ester which shud kick in about week 2 run up to week 5 plus and extra 2 weeks so technically the deca will be run for 7 weeks

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22 Jun 2009 10:53 #16120 by Sting
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I don't agree with dividing the half life by two cos by doing so the blood levels are still not stable since the remainder levels become additive in my opinion but I apologise if I am wrong about this one

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22 Jun 2009 11:43 #16127 by Lesa
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2nd cycle and you wanna do anaps? Dude you should rethink the whole cycle altogether maybe even ask DJ or one of the guys here to recomend you a proper 2nd cycle. Anaps is really an advanced steroid and if not used right sides are hectic. Also it supresses appetite so if you dont have the diet right and a huge appetite you will grow and then lose a lot afterwards...Also some guys i know are even jabbing test suspension twice per day and you wanna do monday and thursday? dude atleast EOD shots of test supension. Why not go for test prop? i hope you not thinking that test suspension hurts less cause it dont bro.

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22 Jun 2009 12:13 #16132 by Empire
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ok u are bro i honestly think that u are not doing your cycle the right way. test suspension has about an 24 hour half life and u are doing it only twice a week? not clever,espicially with deca. even at 100mg of deca a week u are going to get shut down so u need to take a long acting test or a short ester very often. same with test suspension anavar injectible is also short half life so everyday or every otherday injections are needed. then anapolin and superdrol...thats gonna me heavy heavy on the liver..i dont under stand why u are doing a deca cycle for such a short time anyway.12weeks is the better option bro.stack it with test enathate or cyprionate...also if u are doing a short cycle rather use NPP seeing that u are using a short acting test like test suspension.but also why are u running anapolin for 1 week? this is really a terrible looking cycle bro...and tamoxifen and deca = chance lactating man boobs...but be my guest.

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22 Jun 2009 12:14 #16134 by Empire
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oh and goodluck with infections from the test suspension...bacteria loves suspension seeing its a water base.

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22 Jun 2009 12:41 #16138 by masterm
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"although it may contain testosterone without the benefit of an ester, and contrary to popular belief, the microcrystal design of this injectable will sustain an elevated testosterone release for 2-3 days"

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22 Jun 2009 12:43 #16140 by masterm
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@ djeasye "tamoxifen and deca = chance lactating man boobs"
please explain

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22 Jun 2009 14:27 #16144 by Extreme
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@masterm
What was your 1st cycle ?

IMO, there are far too many different steroids in this cycle. I'm more on the cautious side.

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22 Jun 2009 15:02 #16146 by masterm
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testoviron 5 weeks (250mg)
dbol 4weeks (50mg)

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22 Jun 2009 15:26 #16147 by Extreme
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I think that's a big step from your 1st cycle to your 2nd cycle.
Like Lesa said Anapolin is a serious steroid.

Why don't you rather run :
Testoviron 10 - 12 weeks
DBol 4weeks
Winny to finish off

Or

Testoviron / Test En 12 - 14 weks
EQ or Deca 10 - 12 weeks
DBol 4 weeks
Winny to finish off

Obviously you'd need to add a PCT to these cycles.

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22 Jun 2009 16:17 #16150 by masterm
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i cant and wont run my cycles for that long, thers too much risk for shutdown.
alot of info out there says gains stop around week 7ish or so,
its not worth burning out yr receptors like that plus not being able to recover.

kk anyways ill drop the anaps, but which 1 between the s-drol or dbol?
im skeeming s-drol, sounds like a solid product

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22 Jun 2009 16:21 #16151 by masterm
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any of you heard of ACRs new anabolics?
dbol 10, oxymetholone 75, winny 10 and i think ana 10 aswell?
they make all those prohormones incl" sdrol, halo 7, 19 nor etc?

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22 Jun 2009 16:35 #16153 by Empire
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masterm wrote:

"although it may contain testosterone without the benefit of an ester, and contrary to popular belief, the microcrystal design of this injectable will sustain an elevated testosterone release for 2-3 days"


interesting,never heard of that before,where does this literature come from?cos i am sure that everyone would like to read that...

i cant and wont run my cycles for that long, thers too much risk for shutdown.
alot of info out there says gains stop around week 7ish or so,
its not worth burning out yr receptors like that plus not being able to recover.

kk anyways ill drop the anaps, but which 1 between the s-drol or dbol?
im skeeming s-drol, sounds like a solid product


ummmm do some reading dude, deca shuts u down big time no mater how long u on it....
www.steroid.com/Deca.php
We can see from the chart below that a simgle measly 100mg injection of Deca caused a total (100%) reduction of natural testosterone levels, and it took roughly a month to return those testosterone levels to baseline! All from 100mgs of Deca!

tamoxifen and deca = chance lactating man boobs


deca is a progesterone and tamoxifen can cause progersterone gyno...search for posts by conan,it explains all.

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22 Jun 2009 16:56 #16154 by masterm
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go read anabolics by william Llewellyn, its all under test suspension!!and go look under deca china! he states proviron and tamoxifen will do just fine for deca!!! i think he wud know alot more than you and many other peeps sitting behind a pc all day and talking crap, no offence dude.
u dont see ronnie or jay siting behind a computer giving u info on anabolics now do u?
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22 Jun 2009 17:06 #16155 by Empire
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well "china" good luck with that,i will laugh if u get kids to run up and ask for a suckle.... i wouldnt test it so well good luck...and now from someone who says inject at half the half life the shortest ester drug why would he say to inject something with a 18hour half life twice a week,that seems to be contradictory...if u suffer from progesterone side effects(which u wont know about seeing its only your second cycle) tamoxifen will cause the progesterone sides to get worse and ta da gyno. but wait u wouldnt know about that cos u have never used any 19 nor ester. so reading is one thing and experiencing it for yourself is another but good luck dude,its only your money u will play with if it happens seeing that medical aid doesnt pay for gyno surgery....

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22 Jun 2009 17:09 #16156 by Empire
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ok this is a direct quote from Conan on one of the previous strings...

because both the nandrolones and trenbolones have an affinity for progesterone receptors it is always better to use Clomid and not Kessar during PCT with these 2 products,in fact Kessar can make progesterone based gyno worse ,by acting as an estrogen to block the estrogen receptors it fools the body into thinking it has estrogen present and you need to have estrogen present for progeterone based gyno ,my advice would be to stop the Kessar and Clomid now and sort out the gyno problem with Arimadex and only then carry on PCT with only the Clomid.

now with this coming from a man who has about 15-20 years experience with AAS use. i would rather go with his advice than yours who has a cycle under his belt.

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