My 6 week winter cycle - Tbol / Winstrol

acidkidsa
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28 Jun 2009 15:42 #16483 by acidkidsa

My 6 week winter cycle - Tbol / Winstrol was created by acidkidsa

Starting my 6 week cycle using the following.

I cannot find much about stacking these two items together, so I thought I will give it a bash.

I will be taking a Winstrol/Tbol cycle.

Cycle:

Winstrol: 50mg ED / EOD inc B complex / b12
Tbol: 40mg ED
PCT: Kessar
Dur: 6week

My stats:
Age: 27
Weight: 85
Height: 186
BF: +-15%
Years training : 4

My diet has been the same for the last 8 months or more. (its been posted somewhere before. Low carb/ high protein)

Any suggestions would be great.

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viking87
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28 Jun 2009 22:13 #16489 by viking87

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I'm no pro here but from what I've read on the site is that Winstrol shouldn't be taken without Test cause it shuts you down pretty bad. So maybe look into it.

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acidkidsa
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29 Jun 2009 07:22 #16491 by acidkidsa

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Yeah I know.

I prefer not to take test for my own reasons. So its not a option.

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Empire
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29 Jun 2009 08:06 #16492 by Empire

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throw in some clomid to your pct,5 tabs should be fine,do 5 days then move on to the kessar.

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acidkidsa
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29 Jun 2009 08:11 #16494 by acidkidsa

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Shot DJ will do

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Inja
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29 Jun 2009 21:56 #16525 by Inja

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acidkidsa wrote:

I cannot find much about stacking these two items together, so I thought I will give it a bash.

Well don't forget to report back on it then

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acidkidsa
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26 Jul 2009 11:12 #18327 by acidkidsa

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Week 4 going on week 6

Strength gains were medium but constant .

At the begging of the cycle I dropped alot of water and weight reached down to 84.5 at one stage.

I am know weighing +86kg , BF not checked.

So far I am more than impressed with the result.

I have purchased a Diet from DJ and will be starting as from today.

Diet basically is alot cleaned with no MRP (meal replacements) .

I am going to try get hold of a camara to post some picks asap

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Inja
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26 Jul 2009 13:34 #18332 by Inja

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What have you cycled with winnie before and how do you think the Tbol compares in the stack bro?

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acidkidsa
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26 Jul 2009 16:12 #18341 by acidkidsa

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I the past I have taken winnies by itself, and had minimal gains.

With the Tbol I found it increased the amound of good quality gains significantly .

This cycle with a good (clean and proper)diet will give excellent noticeable results .

End of the cycle the PCT will be clomid and Kessar . (with clen in mind)

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Inja
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26 Jul 2009 16:38 #18344 by Inja

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At what dosage?
You are now doing around 90mg of AAS a day I assume? Was your winnie only cycle at a similar dosage? I ask because high concentrations could be the root of better gains.

I am keen to try adding Tbol into a short summer cutter as I've only heard good things about it.

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acidkidsa
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26 Jul 2009 18:29 #18359 by acidkidsa

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When I did the Winstrol only cycle.I was only injecting twice a week. (Mon - Wed )

Now I am every second day at 50mg . (Nomad Labs version)
Tbol at 40mg ED (Mon-Fri)

I would highly recommend adding Tbol in Inja . How well the Tbol work on its own, I have no idea.
But with the current cycle I am on it seems to work wonders.

When I do this cycle again , I am considering adding some test ( giving test a bash again - maybe)

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Inja
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26 Jul 2009 23:27 #18369 by Inja

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How much were you injecting twice a week?
What I'm gettin at is that you are now getting around 280mg or Tbol a week and 150mg - 200mg of winnie a week. Totalling 430mg - 480mg of steroidal compounds a week. If your previous dosages did not compare to this then the reason this cycle is so much better is dosage related. It is thus hard to draw conclusions about the effect of the Tbol.

But I take your advice on the Tbol, I am become more keen to try it with every positive review, thanks for the feedback.

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acidkidsa
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27 Jul 2009 07:09 #18373 by acidkidsa

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Yeah , I was injecting twice a week in the past.

Well tbol I run 40mg ED ( X5). So per week it is 200mg + 150mg winnies = 350mg weekly

It is quiet hard to draw a conclusion on the added effect of the Tbol , you right . I am comparing it
to the results I have seen on other people. The tbol seems to add quanitiy to the cycle.
(from what I can tell)

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Inja
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27 Jul 2009 19:44 #18463 by Inja

Replied by Inja on topic My 6 week winter cycle - Tbol / Winstrol

Thanks alot man. Anything other interesting comments on the Tbol (non-muscle related)?

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acidkidsa
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27 Jul 2009 20:55 #18469 by acidkidsa

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I just want to know if its best on a empty stomach or full. I have taken it on a empty stomach every time.

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Inja
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27 Jul 2009 21:31 #18473 by Inja

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Steroids don't need to be shuttled into the blood stream using insulin or the like so consuming them on an empty stomach is sufficient.

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acidkidsa
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28 Jul 2009 07:41 #18476 by acidkidsa

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I would like to hear from someone that did a Tbol only cycle

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28 Jul 2009 09:44 #18499 by Empire

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i've done a tbol only cycle,worked like a charm,strength shot up in a space of 4 weeks.wonderful stuff

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acidkidsa
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28 Jul 2009 10:14 #18503 by acidkidsa

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How long does the strength stay with you after the cycle ?

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28 Jul 2009 10:22 #18506 by Empire

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i didnt do a pct for it(silly boy but i was still young) and i kepy 80% of the strength,even without pct.

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28 Jul 2009 17:59 #18555 by animalpak07

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@DJ
What dosage did you run your first tbol cycle at, for how long? Any other gains besides strength? Any sides?

Never feel sorry for yourself... Even if you're training hard, he might be training twice as hard. You just gotta keep coming back stronger.

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Inja
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28 Jul 2009 21:44 #18576 by Inja

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I don't remember cause it was a while ago so remind me DJ squirrel man, was this your first cycle?

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29 Jul 2009 09:06 #18594 by Empire

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i ran the global anabolics version at 30mg a day for 4 weeks...worked like a charm!no it wasnt my first cycle

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Inja
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30 Jul 2009 22:01 #18784 by Inja

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Sweet man, looks like a compound I will be experimenting with sometime soon no doubt.

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acidkidsa
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01 Oct 2009 07:42 #24313 by acidkidsa

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Sooooooo +3 months later something must of gone wrong.

I am 80kg now. I just keep loosing weight.

Size is down big time when I compared it to photo's from after and before the cycle.

I must be doing something wrong. B/F is around 9% ( according to the VA machine , did it 4 time got the same result)

Gone from 86 to 80. And it keep dropping! I freak out when I saw my mates and they said I have lost lank size.

Diet is as clean as can be . Eating +300g of protein every day.

On top of this I am supplimenting with :

Creatine
ZMA
Glutemine
Taurine
GABA

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