My 6 week winter cycle - Tbol / Winstrol

Get blood-work done. Maybe your Test levels aren't up to scratch.

maybe I should just inject some prop and save me the docters bill

acidkidsa wrote:

Sooooooo +3 months later something must of gone wrong.

I am 80kg now. I just keep loosing weight.

Size is down big time when I compared it to photo's from after and before the cycle.


I must be doing something wrong. B/F is around 9% ( according to the VA machine , did it 4 time got the same result)

Gone from 86 to 80. And it keep dropping! I freak out when I saw my mates and they said I have lost lank size.

Diet is as clean as can be . Eating +300g of protein every day.

On top of this I am supplimenting with :

Creatine
ZMA
Glutemine
Taurine
GABA

Slow puncture maybe ?? :blush: :haha

Ish dude , I dont know.

Something is wrong.

This year I have done:
Superdrol x2 cycles

Tbol Winstrol x1

. The last 3 month I have lost BF big time. But muscles have lost size. Espcially my shoulders and bag
Struggling with Libido and strength sometime.

Everything seems to be point to low Test.

high prolactin levels could also be the cause...

also maybe not a long enough PCT?

You cant do any harm I think starting another cycle, you have been off for awhile... Just make sure you plan it nicely... Have all gear on hand and have a nice long PCT....

My current cycle gained 8kgs, lost 0... just about 4 weeks since my last shot.... I have my PCT for my body down to an art... know exactly what it wants, needs...

Thanks 00pump

Really stressing here. Dont know whats happening. Maybe a 5 week cycle of Prop and Tbol will help followed by a longer PCT.

Milktuds wrote:

Get blood-work done

Might be a good idea. I agree that you could probaly jump back on cycle and get that mass back, but it would be a good idea to find out where your hormone levels are at (test prolactin, the works). This way you will know if you previous PCT was the problem and fix it accordingly in future cycles. You don't want this happening again!

On the aside I'm sure your clean diet is fine but are those 300g protein part of I'd say at least around 3000 cal?

Inja wrote:

Milktuds wrote:

Get blood-work done

Might be a good idea. I agree that you could probaly jump back on cycle and get that mass back, but it would be a good idea to find out where your hormone levels are at (test prolactin, the works). This way you will know if you previous PCT was the problem and fix it accordingly in future cycles. You don't want this happening again!

On the aside I'm sure your clean diet is fine but are those 300g protein part of I'd say at least around 3000 cal?

Cal is at 3500.

I am thinking of adding pasta in 1 times a day atm.

Just a thought.. To increase the Cal a bit

Alright that seems fine,
Fook bro I would start to worry about endocrine system with that kind of loss. I do think it is a better option to get the bloods before jumping back on the bandwagon, I'm all for finding the route of the problem.
If you do jump on cycle again I would go for a little longer than 5 weeks though, make it a full lean mass cycle. I know you don't use test, so this is hard.

How old are you again bro?

I am 28,

I am thinking of just hitting some Prop and Tbol.

I will give test a go again.

I will weigh myself again tonight and see what it says.

But from 86 down to 80 -81 is shocking. I was use clen after PCT as well

Yep that's some serious mass, especially for 28,
Jumping on cycle will fix the problem but I think its still good to get the bloods and find out what the problem was!

Then hit an 8 weeker if your planning the prop. Get you back up over 86, and plan a PCT with two weeks of HCG and kessar, and a further 4-6 weeks kessar.

Going to have to do that.

Somethings not right. I thought it was BF loss that cause it. But not 6kg.

I was 16%bf around 9 now.

Sucks to be me atm.

86kg, 16%fat --> 13.76kgfat
80kg, 09%fat --> 7.2kgfat

Net fat loss 6.56kg fat...

Inja wrote:

86kg, 16%fat --> 13.76kgfat
80kg, 09%fat --> 7.2kgfat

Net fat loss 6.56kg fat...

Errrrrrrrrrrm fook it.

So that actually looks about right.....

I reckon I need to get a proper cycle together to get back to
86kg with 9%...

16 % before your cycle or when you were at 86kg?

acidkidsa wrote:

Inja wrote:

86kg, 16%fat --> 13.76kgfat
80kg, 09%fat --> 7.2kgfat

Net fat loss 6.56kg fat...

Errrrrrrrrrrm fook it.

So that actually looks about right.....

I reckon I need to get a proper cycle together to get back to
86kg with 9%...

That being said although smaller you should be noticably leaner.
I hope it's all cleared up now cause gotta log off.

I think I lost size in the cutting process as well.. So I need up my game then.

@ acid...what height are you at if you dont mind me asking?

I am 190cm ( Last reading on my passport)

cool beans...the reason I ask is that I`m 178 and my weight is 88 at approx. 15% bf at the moment...hoping to get it down to approx 10%...which will bring me down to 84 odd..If I lose muscle mass I might end up closer to 80 as well...

Not lekker been 80.

I look like a small mofo from Somalia

Before I started training I was 67kgs!! went up to 120kgs

at 67kgs at 6 foot 3, trust me, its just skin an bone....

When I started training I weighed 58kg (dis fokkol) now I am at 78kg (still fuck all)

Thats not bad... in how long? I put on close on 60kgs in 6 years.... then stopped training because of issues and came back... if I had carried on training I would be in a good position today... anyway, making a slow come back...