Finished my first major cycle ;-) pls help...

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04 Jul 2009 17:53 #16829 by vision
Greetings,

I was on a cycle of Test Entate and Equipose for 10 weeks, (kicked started with d-bols 6 weeks) also added winstrols at the end. Had a extra 10ml of deca and Test... Used the Deca also for the first 10 weeks and added 1ml of 300mg test for extra 5 weeks.. :-) 15 weeks later and in PCT now. Longest cycle ever for me... I have gained 10kgs and its been a week.. My endurance is a bit weaken, and I also get less of a pump. But most the new muscle and strength is still kicking ass ;-)

I am just a little concerned, my whole body is extremely, lean.. Arms, shoulders, chest, back and legs look really explosive (comp level).. I just seem to have a bit of a problem with extra fat around the belly area... How can I get rid of this? without killing my new gains ;-)

Any advice???


Many thanks guys!!

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04 Jul 2009 20:08 #16830 by Inja
Bro, the most important thing to focus on when coming off your gains is retaining your mass without gaining more fat. Eat big and clean, and lift heavy. Once you've recovered and you know what your left with then shift your focus to cutting down and gettin rid of stubborn fat.

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05 Jul 2009 09:49 #16839 by acidkidsa
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I an bit confused with your cycle?

So you took Equi with deca ? If so I think its a waste and would of saved it for the next cycle.

As for the extra belly fat. Do you pct and all that.

Take some Clen dude.

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05 Jul 2009 10:16 #16840 by shaunrsa
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Yep, taking Clen PCT is a good idea. Will help keep gains and assist in fat loss.

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05 Jul 2009 11:04 #16841 by jackrabbit1
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acidkidsa wrote:

I an bit confused with your cycle?

So you took Equi with deca ? If so I think its a waste and would of saved it for the next cycle.


Why would you say this?

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05 Jul 2009 12:41 #16844 by shaunrsa
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jackrabbit1 wrote:

acidkidsa wrote:

I an bit confused with your cycle?

So you took Equi with deca ? If so I think its a waste and would of saved it for the next cycle.


Why would you say this?


Isn't it widely regarded as a replacement for Deca?

That it does more or less the same thing?

Just asking.

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05 Jul 2009 13:44 #16846 by vision
Yeah sure you either use Deca or Equipose based on what ever you trying to achieve.. Deca gives far more mass over Equipose that provides more lean mass... Depends on what you want.. I prefer the Deca because of the water retention helps with heavy training.. Either way you have to add Test to both.. So I don't think I was far off with the cycle, I was just adding something to it.. :-) As the original plan was only to run Equipose.. Next time I am going to stick to only Deca and Test. The Equi is better for bigger guys, and not guys like me trying to achieve more weight quicker..

Honestly, I am very impressed with what I have achieved. And its mostly thanks to all of you guys! and a special thank you to djsaeye. your advice hasn't failed me yet :)

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05 Jul 2009 16:24 #16850 by acidkidsa
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@ Jackrabbit.

From what I understand Equi and Deca are similar .

I just like to keep things simple . Like Equi + Test for 10 weeks , then in a few months Test and Equi + winnies for 10 weeks , buuuuuuuuuut thats just me.

And seen I dont know from the post what amount of test were used in MG, shut down could be a issue.
But I a guessing the test was higher than the Equi and Deca.

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05 Jul 2009 17:32 #16856 by vision
Uhm

Started at 74kilos as lean as hell.

OC Lab Dianabols 10mg (50mg per day for 6 weeks)
DECA was 350mg PGW (1ml per week) 10 weeks
Equi was 300mg PGW (1ml per week) 10 weeks
Test was 300mg PGW (2ml per week) 10 weeks
Then ran extra Test for another 5 weeks (2ml per week) and added winnie oclabs 30mg per day.

I never was shutdown during the whole cycle... and I my libido went through the roof. ;-)

PCT = Pregnyl + Clomid

Weight at the moment first week of PCT 86kilos.

Next cycle I will keep simple with Test Enthate + Deca.. and will kick start with d-bols..

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05 Jul 2009 18:08 #16857 by acidkidsa
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Oops I made a mistake in my post. I meant to say

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Like Deca + Test for 10 weeks , then in a few months Test and Equi + winnies for 10 weeks , buuuuuuuuuut thats just me."


Cool dude hope you keep all your gains.. Train like a animal

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05 Jul 2009 18:15 #16859 by vision
Thanks bud! I Hope so too!... :-) The gains I made, if I can do it again in 15 weeks or so... Might even stretch to 20 weeks... Then I will be fairly close to 100 by the end of this year.

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05 Jul 2009 18:19 #16860 by acidkidsa
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You will get there. Train and eat like a machine... .

I hover around 86 I want to be 90kg and stay there.

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05 Jul 2009 19:37 #16862 by jackrabbit1
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Visions cycle is a lot like mine at the moment only my doses are 1/3 higher - and mines only just starting to kick in properly now at week 13.

The idea was to keep the sides of higher doses EQ and Deca at a min hoping id get some synergy, but alas thats not the case. Well not fo me anyway. Not all that happy with the results.

Next time a 20 week(Min) deca if i decide to go that route again.

Must say DJ slapped the wrist a bit and forced another meal and half a chicken farms worth of eggs into the diet.

Going to weeek 15 then a 2 month cruise on low testen and var.

BTW - Holding no more water than before and starting to lean out nicely.

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