nolvadex vs proviron

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07 Jul 2009 12:11 #16998 by yugen
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In the fight against Gynecomastia which product would do a better job. Read an article not to long ago thats says nolvadex fights the problem but proviron stops it at roots.

just need some different Opinions!

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07 Jul 2009 14:33 #17022 by 00pump
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due to the strengh of proviron you need allot, so not that :)

nolva is allways said to be kept around incase signs start, but the only thing to get rid of gyno is letro.

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07 Jul 2009 15:25 #17032 by Lesa
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I understand that once you have full blown gyno the only solution is an OP? So does letro actually reverse gyno? Hmmm thats new as well.

Proviron is a androgenic steroid with anabolic properties designed to be given to men in the early and medopausal stages of life. This steroid is most unique in the world because it is a non-17 Alpha Oral Androgen replacement for males.Body builders use it as an anti estrogen during the cycle as its a estrogen antagonist. It however does not stimulate test production in any way. It releases test that binds to SHBG which means it increases free test which in fact will increase mood libido memory etc. I would not use it in pct as it can hinder your recovery and deffinately not once gyno is formed. It can however give you a continuous boner all day long :ohmy: So yea it can PREVENT gyno if you start using it during your cycle but cannot reverse it.

Nolvadex can be used effectively to treat Gyno caused both by gear usage and by obesity. During a cycle if you notice itchy/puffy nipples I would suggest 40-80mgs of nolva per day until that subsides at which time I would suggest you maintain a dosage of 10-20mgs a day until the end of you cycle. No, this will not affect your PCT and you should proceed with PCT as planed before you started your cycle.Also if your body fat is high you will have issues in monitoring your progress with nolva.You need to lose the excess weight first and then use the nolva if you still have that excess tissue. To do this I would recommend 40mgs a day for a period of 1-3 months or until the gyno has cleared up.

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07 Jul 2009 15:45 #17035 by 00pump
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www.steroid.com/Letrozole.php

I have heard a number of cases reverting gyno... I on the other hand had to have an operation. I didn't want to put my body under that much stress (heart disease due to low estrogen levels)

I had the op and had the gland removed... caused a slight indent after the op, its been 3 weeks now and it nearlly 90% gone... fantastic job my surgeon had done.

but good solid information provided..

thanks lesa.

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07 Jul 2009 20:43 #17068 by J-cyclo
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Dude Letro Does reverse Gyno, I had a full blown gyno and I used letro to reverse it.

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08 Jul 2009 08:08 #17082 by 00pump
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What dose where you using 2.5? I've been so scared after my surgery not to get it again, so using around 1.5mg during my cycle, as tests show 1.5mg of letro can supress 90% of estrogen...

And I know that you cannot take them together, as just 20mg of nolva can lower blood plaza levels of letro by up to 35/40 %

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08 Jul 2009 09:57 #17085 by yugen
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just want to know which is better to use to prevent it if you had to choose between them.

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08 Jul 2009 10:00 #17086 by 00pump
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Why would you limit yourself to those two choinces and not concider adex or letro?

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08 Jul 2009 11:06 #17091 by Novice!
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Yugen how long hav you had your gyno for?

J-cyclo how old was your gyno wen you started treating it?

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08 Jul 2009 11:13 #17092 by 00pump
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I dont think Yugen has gyno, he is just asking a question (theoreticly)

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08 Jul 2009 14:05 #17104 by Lesa
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J-cyclo wrote:

Dude Letro Does reverse Gyno, I had a full blown gyno and I used letro to reverse it.


Thats good to know bro i always thought full blown gyno was irreversible. Could you maybe give us some details of how you treated the gyno with what dosages of letro, what period of time, what cycle you were on and what ancilaries you used.

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08 Jul 2009 14:08 #17107 by 00pump
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LOL, want to hear something funny was reading about a guy asking if he could inject the letro into the gyno :D also another guy stating that rubbing letro on the skin helped his? are these people smoking their socks or can there be truth to this?

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08 Jul 2009 14:27 #17110 by Extreme
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Lesa wrote:

J-cyclo wrote:

Dude Letro Does reverse Gyno, I had a full blown gyno and I used letro to reverse it.


Thats good to know bro i always thought full blown gyno was irreversible. Could you maybe give us some details of how you treated the gyno with what dosages of letro, what period of time, what cycle you were on and what ancilaries you used.


Lesa have a look at this link it may answer some of your questions.

forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=379916

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08 Jul 2009 17:47 #17129 by booster
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As far as I know (NOT MUCH), Proviron should or is always used near the end of your cycle to lower circulating eostrogen before you come off cycle. I have used it as part of PCT with Nolvadex and Clomid but did not feel any additional benefit over Nolva and Clomid alone.

Another theory goes; you let eostrogen run wild in the first few weeks of your cycle because of the additional growth it gives you, and then you add Proviron to curtail the eostrogen side effects which start to build up around week 4 of your cycle. Some use Nolvadex for the same purpose, but apparently proviron does not slow down growth as with Nolvadex. This is obviously with aromatising substances such as DBOL and test.

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08 Jul 2009 17:59 #17133 by admin
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From my own experience, Proviron will not reverse gyno at all and I've had estrogenic side-effects while using 100mg proviron per day.

Letro is you only hope before you consider surgery.

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