Advice on cycle

Thanks for all the info to my previously asked questions..

So ive decided that i'll be doing the Beginner Bulking Cycle under the Sample Cycles (by Netro) in around 11 weeks time. I'll only be running it for 10 weeks however (As i mentioned about my travelling in older posts). The advice given to me was to wait say a week and then start Pregnyl, but i see on the sample cycle that the post cycle Pregnyl starts much sooner. Is that due to the fact that you were running maintenance shots of Pregnyl on cycle??

You start post cycle pregnyl as soon as your last shot so that endogenous test levels are already elevated once exogenous test has left the body....

Thanks for that Inja. So I'll be following that cycle to the day then.
Another thing, the way the Clomid is to be used says that its a five day on, rest five days, and then another five days (at 50mg/day). No problems with this? The reason i ask is because alot of guys say dont do the five day break inbetween and rather start off at around 100mg/day and then drop down to 50mg/day.

Your insight would be appreciated..

Nope, I think its better to leave off the break and run the SERM continuously.

Th Beginners bulking cycle is a good cycle but I'd change the PCT if I were doing it.
For instance I'd use kessar instead of clomid, and I'd run my SERM for six weeks. Two weeks of SERMs is not enough for me to regain full HPTA, especially with Deca. Also I'd start my SERM at the same time as HCG. If I add the letro to the cycle I'd make sure I run a SERM for a few weeks after using the letro as there is an estrogen surge after letro is stopped that can cause another test crash.

But the Test / Deca / Dbol is undoubtedly one of my favourites!!!

Thanks for that Inja, suggestions are noted!

Would you agree with this PCT as posted by MxT:

"Nolva and HCG-My personal favourite. In my last week of injection 1500iu’s every 5th day not exceeding 3 weeks of use then run 40 mg of Nolva (split doses) per day for 2 weeks and 20mg of Nolva (split doses) per day. YES we can get into details of 250 IU’s everyday or 500 IU’s every second day during cycle. But this is expensive and impractical although very effective. Rating 4 out of 5. Works for me on everything I have ever used. With almost no side effects except a mean sex drive. I must admit that I use Proviron with this approach starting the same day as my HCG but I see this more than an on cycle Estrogen control than PCT since Proviron also suppresses HPTA function."

Seeing as you've used kessar after a Deca cycle, did you not have any problems with kessar flaring up the progesterone sides? I guess this is another one of those never ending debates, but alot of guys are saying you shouldnt use kessar.

Attached is my cycle..

Please point out any SERIOUS errors. Also this is what i have at my disposal. As you can see it is the Beginner Bulking cycle by Netro, just tweaked a bit according to advice given in the forum (thanks again).
Again, as this will be my first cycle i think i should give this a go and use it as a benchmark for future cycles and really just see how my body is gonna react to the cycle and PCT.
To everyone so far that has given advice, it is much appreciated...much respect. You guys and gal have cycle experience and know by now what works for you and what doesnt.
So, from that point of view unless there are any serious faults i may have in the attachment....let me go forth!! (File Removed)

No serious errors but I'd like to know why aren't your HCG shots evenly spaced out during your cycle ?

Then there is the other norm that your 1st cycle should be a test only cycle. Somebody has already posted an article with all the reasons why.

Hi Extreme

That is the way its given on the Beginner Bulk cycle, should i maybe look at spacing it more evenly?
As for Test only cycle...I know some guys that did pretty much the same for their first cycle. I guess its just preference, and i have pretty much everything already.

If it was me, I'd spce the HCG evenly throughout the cycle, so every 3rd day - that makes more sense to me.

If you wanted you could even split up those 1500iu shots.
There a number of different way to do a PCT and most work.

Good Luck bud.

Will implement your advice Extreme, much appreciated...

Thanks, looking forward to it (in 11 weeks time!)

Greetings..

Just some feedback to anyone interested. Finished the Beginner Cycle around 4 weeks ago...busy with PCT. I was really interested to see what kind of results i would get (I mentioned i travel alot, and where i am i simply can't eat cleanly and have to shove whatever i can into my mouth). I really couldn't tell you my BF percentage, there's just no way to get that measured here...but i started at 93kg (1.86m tall), always been on the lean side of things! Finished of the cycle at 106kg...was really happy with the results.
Was an interesting experience...

That's good gains Mr M
What's nice about having low BF when beginning a cycle is you can be less strict with clean eating habits.
What PCT have you decided on?
IMO I would reduce the volume or intensity post cycle a little if you have been training harder than normal(without gear). Still train with heavy weights and stress the muscle etc, I just think it very easy to over train in the early months after a cycle.
What you guys think...

Cheers for the feedback..

Well i did my 3 weeks HCG (1500iu's a week), did 5 days Clomid at 100mg/day and now on Nolva at 20mg/day for a month. Im sure everyone will have their own preferences to PCT but i think this would pretty much cover it.
Yes, obviously my strength wasn't what it was on cycle...with my buggered shoulder i lose strength pretty quickly. But nothing too serious. All in all no complaints!!

Mr M wrote:

Cheers for the feedback..

Well i did my 3 weeks HCG (1500iu's a week), did 5 days Clomid at 100mg/day and now on Nolva at 20mg/day for a month. Im sure everyone will have their own preferences to PCT but i think this would pretty much cover it.
Yes, obviously my strength wasn't what it was on cycle...with my buggered shoulder i lose strength pretty quickly. But nothing too serious. All in all no complaints!!

Nice gains Mr MI know you don`t have a BF measurement but did you get leaner (overall definition) or just maintain the same level/Look? Ho wmuch did your poundage go up by when on the cycle?

To be honest i kept just about all my definition...just lost a bit around the stomach. I've naturally always had my abs showing...luckily! But definitely thickened out around the sides...not in a bad way, just broadened out. Well i put on a total of around 13kgs for that cycle. Was really impressed...obviously i didn't know what to expect and was reading constantly about all the water retention and bloat i should've had. Luckily i didn't get that...guess it's all about trial and error.

Mr M wrote:

To be honest i kept just about all my definition...just lost a bit around the stomach. I've naturally always had my abs showing...luckily! But definitely thickened out around the sides...not in a bad way, just broadened out. Well i put on a total of around 13kgs for that cycle. Was really impressed...obviously i didn't know what to expect and was reading constantly about all the water retention and bloat i should've had. Luckily i didn't get that...guess it's all about trial and error.

Lucky bugger...

Well done on ur gains... i did something similar gained 13kgs as well...

Awesome bud. That first cycle will always give you some sweet gains! :laugh:

BB_Guy is right, it's easy to overtrain post cycle, so listen to your body. Keep it up bud.

Definitely made sure i haven't been overtraining. Thanks again to everyone that helped and gave advice...looking forward to asking questions on my next cycle!