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13 Mar 2008 09:39 #1768 by Capulet
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Been reading a few forums but still not clear on what I should take.

Stats: 27
71 kg
191cm
6.5% bf

I have been training for about a year now. Only gained about 5kg, but no gains in the past 4 months. And yes I do eat like it’s going out of fashion.

Please help me with my first cycle. Thinking of deca and Dbol stack....

Thanks guys
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13 Mar 2008 10:59 #1769 by Netro
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Better include a test base as well, test e or c or maybe even sus. How long you plan to run it for?

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13 Mar 2008 11:28 #1770 by Capulet
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8 weeks....? And at what dose?
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13 Mar 2008 11:54 #1771 by Netro
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First wait for more opinions, but mine would be test 200 - 250 p/w (8 weeks), deca 200 - 250 p/w (6 weeks) and front load with your d-bols (3 weeks), add some proviron 50mg p/d last 2 weeks and look at HCG during your cycle and use kessar in case of excessive aromatisation during cycle and the PCT is up for debate. Maybe consider HCG, clomid and kessar in PCT, but I would rather wait for other opinions before you settle on that. Diet should be mass orientated and your gains should be good.

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13 Mar 2008 13:32 #1774 by Doctari
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Would not use the Kessar while on cycle with Deca....

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13 Mar 2008 15:44 #1777 by Netro
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My bad, Clomid

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13 Mar 2008 16:17 #1778 by Capulet
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Howz about......

Test E or Test C @ 250mg every week (weeks 1-12)
Deca @ 200mg every week (weeks 1-10)
Dbol @ 30mg everyday(weeks 1-4)
Nolvadex (week 13-17)
Clomid (week 13-15)

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13 Mar 2008 17:20 #1779 by MxT
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Why would you chuch Deca in there are 250 a week. Save ur cash and just run the Dbol's for 4 weeks and 3 weeks of Kessar will be fine in the end. And ATLEAST 400mg Test- 350 at a push. And stop the cycle at 8 weeks. Easy cheap and ul grow-

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13 Mar 2008 19:15 #1783 by Conan
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JJ at 191 cm and 71kg's tall I would say you're looking to put on as much muscle as possible(as is everyone here)and with a B/F% of 6.5% it looks like you have a very fast metabolism and are probably a hard gainer(I'm guessing you can eat burgers and doughnuts all day and still keep that B/F% at 6.5)
I would have to agree with MxT as to a first cycle
Test Cyp or Enanth @ 400mg/week(200mg inj.Mon+Thur)Weeks 2-8 BUT front-load the test in the first week take 2x 400mg inj. Mon+Thur.
D/bol 40mg/day(10mg 4x/day) Weeks 1-4
Pregnyl 300iu's 2x/week Weeks 2-7 then Weeks 8+9 750iu's 3x/week
2 Weeks after your last Test shot start Kessar @ 20mg/day and continue for 28days
I would usually not add the d/ball in a 'first cycle' but I have found it to be much more effective with the ectomophic body type.I hope this helps.

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14 Mar 2008 09:31 #1808 by Capulet
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Ah thank G for the internet!!

Conan - Ye, I eat like horse and don’t gain any weight. I have been considering roids for a while now but wanted to thorough research first. I’ve heard of so many guys that just dived into the deep end and lost most of their gains and not to mention their libido after a cycle. Thanks for your help man!

Just to confirm that these totals are correct?

Week 1 - Test 800mg, Dbol 280mg
Week 2 - Test 400mg, Dbol 280mg, Pregnyl 300iu
Week 3 - Test 400mg, Dbol 280mg, Pregnyl 300iu
Week 4 - Test 400mg, Dbol 280mg, Pregnyl 300iu
Week 5 - Test 400mg, Pregnyl 300iu
Week 6 - Test 400mg, Pregnyl 300iu
Week 7 - Test 400mg, Pregnyl 300iu
Week 8 - Test 400mg, Pregnyl 750iu
Week 9 - Pregnyl 750iu

2 Weeks after last Test shot start Kessar @ 20mg/day and continue for 28days

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14 Mar 2008 09:35 #1809 by admin
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Looks right, Capulet.

You should have some nice gains there.

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