Half Life..?

Hi guys I know that this has been discussed intensively, however I have read so many books that I am know confused. I have started by 1st cycle of clen and decided to use it 2days on ,2days off, starting with 40mcg and increasing it to 60mcg, I read the following statement on the internet “It also has a longer half-life that makes the 2 day on, 2 day off Clenbuterol cycle unsound to follow” Please can some –one explain it for me and what does half life means

A good way to illustrate half-life is through the "flipping penny" experiment. I remember it well from my high school earth sciences class, and I'm sure many of you have probably done this exercise as well. This experiment involves placing 100 pennies inside a flat, closeable box. It is big enough that the pennies can sit side by side comfortably without overlapping each other. We begin with them all facing "heads-up". Next we close the box, give it a good shake, and then open it back up again. We then proceed to remove all pennies that are now "tails-up" in the box. This process is repeated until all of the pennies have been flipped and are removed from the box. We find that with each shake we loose about half of them. Around 50 the first flip, 25 the second, a dozen of so on the third, and so on. Although half of the original amount are tailed and removed on the first flip, it takes many successive tries to clear them all. And usually there are a couple of kids in the class that just can't seem to get the last few over without a lot of work. This illustrates well the way in which we measure drug metabolism in the body. Half-life is not an easy reference for the total time a drug will be found active in the body, but more a guide to optimizing a dosing schedule and avoiding unwanted peaks and troughs.

The half life for Clen is 1.5 days.sO THAT MEANS BY DAY 1.5 AFTER first consuming the strength has halfed.
Hope this helps.

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@ north boy

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allo23 wrote:

Hi guys I know that this has been discussed intensively, however I have read so many books that I am know confused. I have started by 1st cycle of clen and decided to use it 2days on ,2days off, starting with 40mcg and increasing it to 60mcg, I read the following statement on the internet “It also has a longer half-life that makes the 2 day on, 2 day off Clenbuterol cycle unsound to follow” Please can some –one explain it for me and what does half life means

In other words, its the amount of time required for HALF the drug to be out your system. So if you are taking 60mcg clen a day, the half life is 1.5 days so after 1.5 days there is still 30 mcg clen in your system.

In other words, its the amount of time required for HALF the drug to be out your system. So if you are taking 60mcg clen a day, the half life is 1.5 days so after 1.5 days there is still 30 mcg clen in your system.[/quote]

Does this then mean that a 2 days on 2 days off cycle will not work.

I was thinking off using it 2days on 2day os for 1 mnth and 1 week break and start again

No with clen its different... 2 days on 2 days off is good, it works for some others 2 weeks on 2 weeks off is the best way of running it.

its due to how quickly you get a receptors starting rejecting it... my girlfriend does 2 days on 2 days off and other times 2 weeks on 2 weeks off... we find the 2 week split gives her the best results

I personally haven't tried two days on two days off. It should still work, there is always clen in your system, even on the two days off so if you think about it,the receptors never really get a break even when the amount of clen is low. Two weeks on two weeks off sounds more logical to me, clen is used after about a wk and receptors get a break during the second week off. This is what I am currently doing as I found taking minimal ketotifen while remaining on clen does nothing for me.

00pump wrote:

No with clen its different... 2 days on 2 days off is good, it works for some others 2 weeks on 2 weeks off is the best way of running it.

its due to how quickly you get a receptors starting rejecting it... my girlfriend does 2 days on 2 days off and other times 2 weeks on 2 weeks off... we find the 2 week split gives her the best results

When you say best results what kind of results are you talking about? i.e. weight loss. My wife is a little overweight and has now been on Clen for three weeks non stop and we can't see visible results. She also takes 10ml Adco Zetofen before bedtime.1st week 30mcg, 2nd week 40mcg, 3rd week 50mcg.

What I mean by results is, its very active, like my chick feels very shaky and stuff, after 2 weeks no shakes, or very mild if any at 100mcg a day what she is currently on. so as the bee said, 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off is great... my chick is training very hard and on a very strict diet, i think clen by itself would do nothing.

00pump wrote:

What I mean by results is, its very active, like my chick feels very shaky and stuff, after 2 weeks no shakes, or very mild if any at 100mcg a day what she is currently on. so as the bee said, 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off is great... my chick is training very hard and on a very strict diet, i think clen by itself would do nothing.

She doesn't just take Clen by itself. She is also on a very clean high protein low carb diet and does 1 hour cardio in morning at 05h00 Mon to Fri.

lol sounds like my woman, no idea how they get to the gym at that time....

north_boy... jeah, i've never really understood how its supposed to work to be honest... i'm doing bodyfat test on a monthly basis so I guess that will be the best way to know for certain if its working also by taking measurements...

NB1, I think just get her to stay motivated at gym and tell her to keep up the good work. Just give it a few more weeks even when she isn't using clen. I find when I do cardio after being lazy(which I dont do anymore) the results of the hardwork start to show after about two months. Whatever happens, dont let her lose motivation.

00pump wrote:

lol sounds like my woman, no idea how they get to the gym at that time....

north_boy... jeah, i've never really understood how its supposed to work to be honest... i'm doing bodyfat test on a monthly basis so I guess that will be the best way to know for certain if its working also by taking measurements...

You got no idea how they get to the gym at that time.....She goes with me...LOL.

@Beesting - thanks I will keep her motivated, but she also is in there for the long run.

Man, how do you find strength at that time of the morning, I can't even press 20kg dumbells.

respect!!

00pump wrote:

Man, how do you find strength at that time of the morning, I can't even press 20kg dumbells.

respect!!

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North_Boy1 wrote:

00pump wrote:

Man, how do you find strength at that time of the morning, I can't even press 20kg dumbells.

respect!!

Determination, motivation, discipline, PNS Ni-agra and SSN Crea Pure

NB, what does ur diet look like in the AM. I also train at 5 and according to what ive read, if u train the AM u shouldfocus on ur diet before lunch.

@andre300,
04h40 - Shaker with 100ml skim milk, 150ml water, half cup oats, 1 scoop WPC, 2tsp Milo(just for taste), 4 caps PNS Ni-agra, 1 Flaxseed cap

05h00-06h00 training (SSN Crea pure + water)

06h15 - Shake in blender
6 egg whites and 1 yolk
1 cup oats
100ml skim milk
4 scoops WPC
3 tsp smooth cottage cheese
1 desert spoon sugar free peanut butter
1 banana
4 ice blocks

After shake - 1000mg Vit C + 1 Multivitamin

00pump wrote:

No with clen its different... 2 days on 2 days off is good, it works for some others 2 weeks on 2 weeks off is the best way of running it.

its due to how quickly you get a receptors starting rejecting it... my girlfriend does 2 days on 2 days off and other times 2 weeks on 2 weeks off... we find the 2 week split gives her the best results

The point of the matter is that the clen causes receptor downgrade (not rejection, not sure what receptor rejection is supposed to be ) much to quickly at 2days on 2days off. So after two weeks you gotta get off anyways and then you might as well have been on the whole week. Especially more so the higher the dose.

50 mcg every day for 5 days then 2 days off.Three weeks on one week off. Works great for me

My chick is on 100mcg a day now and she seems to be handling it quite well.... her blood pressure has dropped quite allot though, weird ey? thought it would be the other way around, she is around 98/45 and highes of around 104 / 50

heh, she has allways had low blood pressure, so don't be so supprised by the readings. I wish I was nice and low like that *stares into the distance)

Inja, downgrade/rejection same kind of thing, it doesn't absorb the clen as well as when your receptors are fresh...

North_Boy1 wrote:

@andre300,
04h40 - Shaker with 100ml skim milk, 150ml water, half cup oats, 1 scoop WPC, 2tsp Milo(just for taste), 4 caps PNS Ni-agra, 1 Flaxseed cap

05h00-06h00 training (SSN Crea pure + water)

06h15 - Shake in blender
6 egg whites and 1 yolk
1 cup oats
100ml skim milk
4 scoops WPC
3 tsp smooth cottage cheese
1 desert spoon sugar free peanut butter
1 banana
4 ice blocks

After shake - 1000mg Vit C + 1 Multivitamin

What is WPC ??

Extreme wrote:

North_Boy1 wrote:

@andre300,
04h40 - Shaker with 100ml skim milk, 150ml water, half cup oats, 1 scoop WPC, 2tsp Milo(just for taste), 4 caps PNS Ni-agra, 1 Flaxseed cap

05h00-06h00 training (SSN Crea pure + water)

06h15 - Shake in blender
6 egg whites and 1 yolk
1 cup oats
100ml skim milk
4 scoops WPC
3 tsp smooth cottage cheese
1 desert spoon sugar free peanut butter
1 banana
4 ice blocks

After shake - 1000mg Vit C + 1 Multivitamin

What is WPC ??

WPC = Whey Protein Concentrate (Clover 80% protein)