Oral only Cycles

Fox
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11 Aug 2009 16:22 #19711 by Fox

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Ok, so there is no way in hell i am injecting myself especially intr muscular. Call me a woes but there is just no way.... and i am sure i am not the only one.
There are more negatives associated with an oral only cycle...granted, but with sufficient liver protection, maybe going overboard with this, and prolonged PCT there must be a reasonable option as far as a cycle in concerned.

Your input appreciated....

Planning a bulk for early next year.

My stats:
Age 28
Years training 5 (some small breaks in between)
Weight 96kg
Height 182
BF % not sure should be under 20
Diet clean 95% of the time, protein high, carbs mederate at the moment.

Thanks

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missiondh
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11 Aug 2009 16:32 #19714 by missiondh

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If you want to stay with orals I would suggest using pro hormones (super anadrol etc.) Cause with Dbol, water retention is real bad. Anadrol is king but very very toxic,Turinabol is very good for quality gains, Winny is also good but with all AAS orals they work best with Test. The pro hormones work very nicely as they cause less sides and good amount of muscle can be gained. There are quite a few out there.

"The best activities for your health are pumping and humping."

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Extreme
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11 Aug 2009 16:40 #19716 by Extreme

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I agree, do a pro hormone cycle.
Do a search on this forum for the thread discussing Superbol.

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Fox
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11 Aug 2009 16:40 #19717 by Fox

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Thats an idea, thanks. Dont know to much about them ie..side, pct etc. But will do research. Are they liver toxic to??? What about super anadrol with turinabol???

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Fox
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11 Aug 2009 18:23 #19723 by Fox

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The superbol seems to be on the fence as far as possible sides vs gains is concerned. Would it not be better to take var @ 60mg for 6-8 weeks??? With thistle for the liver during and a decent pct??

Which would be better?

Thoughts

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Sting
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11 Aug 2009 19:49 #19729 by Sting

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Var is pretty expensive but if you can afford it then go ahead. Some guys get some good gains on Var but you might need a higher dose (say 100mg). Winnie is cheaper but the guys will tell you that it gives you dry joints. You need to get over the needle :ohmy:

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maximus26
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11 Aug 2009 20:31 #19731 by maximus26

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dude, sting is right. i hated needles at first. almost took me a whole day to get courage to inject myself. but now 4 years down the line im like a freaking doctor. even my buds say i give better shots than their gp's. lol. in other words, needle it bra

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milktuds
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11 Aug 2009 20:57 #19734 by milktuds

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Stop being a batty boy and use the needle.

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
Bruce Lee

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Fox
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11 Aug 2009 21:33 #19736 by Fox

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yeah yeah I hear ya, that may take a while though :-)

Thanks for the input.

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milktuds
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11 Aug 2009 21:43 #19737 by milktuds

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Took me about an hour to do my first injection. lol

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00pump
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12 Aug 2009 07:25 #19741 by 00pump

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I don't agree at all, you have your priorties wrong... get over the fear if you prepared to take gear do it properly.... inject leave the orals alone.

"Whether You Think You Can or Can't, You're Right"--Henry Ford

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Inja
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12 Aug 2009 10:47 #19765 by Inja

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milktuds wrote:

Stop being a batty boy and use the needle.

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Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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milktuds
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12 Aug 2009 11:03 #19767 by milktuds

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hahahahaaaa

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North_Boy1
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12 Aug 2009 11:22 #19769 by North_Boy1

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Inja wrote:

milktuds wrote:
Stop being a batty boy and use the needle.

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Inja,
How do you manage to place a picture here? I tried copy and paste, attaching, but it doesn't work. Please help !

If everybody does it, is it still cheating?

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Inja
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12 Aug 2009 18:38 #19802 by Inja

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Um...
Well what I did was go to the section below the text message input window labelled "select image file to attach". Then I hit browse, find the file and upload it to my post. Then I push the little button next to the browse button or just type the code {img} (square brackets) where I want the image to appear.
I think the file size restrictions are 800 x 800 pixels and 51 200kb if that could be your problem.

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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Fox
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12 Aug 2009 20:21 #19808 by Fox

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Ok Ok......was kinda expecting somthing like this :-)

But uuuuuhhhhhh not gonna happen.

I am thinking along the lines of a 6 - 8 week tbol cycle of 40- 50mg/day with kessar pct. Not looking for explosive gains just lasting ones.

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milktuds
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12 Aug 2009 20:42 #19809 by milktuds

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Just get someone to pin you. You don't feel a thing. You're gonna have to start using injectables sooner or later. Your liver will be in the toilet after a couple of oral only cycles.

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Inja
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12 Aug 2009 23:19 #19814 by Inja

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Fox wrote:

Ok Ok......was kinda expecting somthing like this

But uuuuuhhhhhh not gonna happen.

I am thinking along the lines of a 6 - 8 week tbol cycle of 40- 50mg/day with kessar pct. Not looking for explosive gains just lasting ones.

If your going for oral (like batty boy and robin) then fork out the cash. Get the highest dose of the Tbol or Var or Winnie or combination that you can for the longest time possible (being fair to your liver of course).

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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Fox
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13 Aug 2009 07:30 #19821 by Fox

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That is something that i will plan for, what combination/dosage/duration would you recommend. I am keen to use tbol but what to use with it, remembering this is for a bulk.

For liver support.....Milk Thistle and essential starting 2 weeks before and continuing throughout.
For pct ....clomid and or kessar, what would you recommend for dosage.

Thanks.

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Empire
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13 Aug 2009 07:53 #19826 by Empire

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bud half the time most guys dont like using injectables is cos they have been to the doctor and gotten a shot that has hurt like a gun shot...its really not that bad,the only thing that hurts about injecting steroids is the dent in the wallet it may have...honestly u need to get over the needle phobia,i know if u where to do a 10week test cycle u will be really happy with the results,and i promise u there is no pain unless u have flexed your muscle when getting your shot... get your mate to pin u...i take a jab every day with my current cycle and every now and again i get my mate to jab me cos its just easier....move to the needle,u will be happier with the results

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Fox
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13 Aug 2009 08:14 #19829 by Fox

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Be assured I will keep mulling this over in my mind. Maybe one day. I would love to try a test cycle but ja, injecting. Dont they make an automatic injection pen or something that quick.... Been watching too many movies.

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00pump
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13 Aug 2009 08:37 #19833 by 00pump

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dude, i was shit scared of needles too, like you cant believe, i still feel like im going to faint if i have blood taken but I can pin myself now no problem. and actually wont have anyone else as I trust myself and know how hard to press the gear out, etc.

i had a girl inject me in my triceps... i was so scared i would be like no no no, don't ok, do it etc.... if you scared like i used to be lie down on the bed, put a picture in front of you of jordans boobs and stare at them dont look at the needle at all, and just get a mate to inject your ass you wont feel a thing, my girl hates injections but I give her a b co / b12 injection every week, now that stuff STINGS LIKE SHIT.... I injected 3 mills last night and that was freaking painful as that stuff burns, but using pgw stuff I have not even felt it go in, afterward i;m like hmmmmmm, that was lovely!

"Whether You Think You Can or Can't, You're Right"--Henry Ford

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Fox
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13 Aug 2009 12:34 #19867 by Fox

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Thanks for the input.... Look i prob will bite the bullet at some stage and it prob will not be as bad as I think. I still think i want to start with an oral for a first cycle and see how it goes. My next cycle maybe test. But that a bit to the future.

Djeasye: Inject every day damn. you must be quite comfortable with it by now. I remember you saying you did a tbol cycle and loved it, what dosage did you use.

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00pump
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13 Aug 2009 12:58 #19870 by 00pump

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I'd do what Inja said earlier and combine a few orals together... i specificly stay away from orals so am not the best person to ask for advice on that. I might use orals in the mid of my cycle to just get through a platae I might have.. but just 15 days of anadrol or depeding on what cycle im on might throw winnie in or anavar.

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vega5
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13 Aug 2009 13:18 #19874 by vega5

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Train your neighbour or somebody at work to inject you. My wife injects me, it took a while to train her properly but now its a breeze.

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