Cutting:Equepoise,winny ECA,Maybe Test e?

I am on my 2nd week of eque+winny,but winny will be adminesterd for the last 5 weeks of the cycle,i am also using ECA stack.

week 1-11 eque 420mg
week 8-13 winny 50mg ED
Week 11-13 500iu pregnyl a week

Nolva from week 13-17 40/30/20/20:dry:

I was advised to add test enanthate But acne is kak and gyno,but if my intention is to try and lean out is this present idea of a cycle okay?:huh:

or should i add that test?:blink:
Would it be a bad idea to use 20mg nolva every day if i am gona add a test?

I would realy appreciate some advice..Thanks!!

Most guys suggest using Test as a base but some of the guys here do cycles without Test.
If you don't add the Test then I'd suggest you inject pregnyl every week as the EQ will shut you down.

Personally I dont understand how guys can use EQ as part of a cutting cycle. EQ makes me so hungry that no cow is safe.

That is very true,this crazy undying hunger is developeing...and how can you not eat if you are hungry..
i think i should maybe just add test prop during the time of the winstrol...
getting lean is the hardest part of it all...:blush:

extend the EQ another week at minimum another 3 would be prefered...

You can run EQ without test with no problem at all, I do it all the time... if you are just use hcg through the course that will help out quite a bit....

but remeber nothing cuts you up like Tren... the only difference is I cant stand it and love the safety of EQ....

and if you get hungry on winnie eat protein bars, low in carbs... find other ways to rather absorb protein than including huge portions of carbs..

create a diet and stick to it, thats when I find EQ works the best, not when I decide what I feel like putting in me... the only time I do that is when i'm looking to bulk and its winter its cold and I want to eat... then I dont care but I know that I will have to lean down sooner or later.

00pump wrote:

extend the EQ another week at minimum another 3 would be prefered...

You can run EQ without test with no problem at all, I do it all the time... if you are just use hcg through the course that will help out quite a bit....

but remeber nothing cuts you up like Tren... the only difference is I cant stand it and love the safety of EQ....

and if you get hungry on winnie eat protein bars, low in carbs... find other ways to rather absorb protein than including huge portions of carbs..

create a diet and stick to it, thats when I find EQ works the best, not when I decide what I feel like putting in me... the only time I do that is when i'm looking to bulk and its winter its cold and I want to eat... then I dont care but I know that I will have to lean down sooner or later.

some people belive its wrong not to add a test but i honestly think a test spoils the quality gain you get from other anabolics,you read about the quality gains and low side affects from Deca,Eq,Winny,etc... which is why you would use it but if you add a test you get all the sides from test Water,acne,bloat,posible increase of bf from estrogen conversioin,posible gyno...adding a test seems like it just spoils the advantages from other more expensive types of gear...

many people think its too old skool to exclude test but sometimes i think test is so popular because posers that only recently started training (which there are very many of) that are chaseing a quick gain use it because of the large amount of weight you put on,
but large amount is water and i think another laRGE PART IS INCREASE in bf from estrogen...

I am not sayin that people who use test are posers,just that its largest market is people who have only recently startd training..

its definatly importent to maintain your test levels though with hcg like you said,would you say 500iu a week is good?
i heard using hcg could possibly de sensitise you testis to your own LH,is that posible?
i think i will extend my coarse with 3 weeks like you sugested and maybe increease the Eq dosage to 600mg per week?

Protein intake from a low carb source is much easyer now that i have discoverd LSJ...
Thanks for the advice PuMp,
U da Man!

600 works great!

speaking from thoughts, I don't do a cycle to shag chicks, I do it for specific goals i'm looking at doing to my body.... if EQ shuts you down so what? so does just, but just because you taking test you horny.. I'm not interested in that, I'm not a teenager anymore... I would do HCG half way through the cycle and at the end of it.... that half way through normally helps me break through any barries I might be at.

I'm using test on this EQ cycle i'm doing now only because I'm looking for extra mass, I will tap off the test long before the end of the cycle to make sure what I gain I keep.... I will also be throwing winstrol in but only for the last 2 weeks as it really drys me up, then again so does the ammount of letro i'm taking.

we dont want to be sheep, so find what works well for you and stick to it...

I would use HCG at 1000/1500 ui on a mon / wed / fri split half way through the cycle and leave it till the end of the cycle... I wouldn't use throughout the whole cycle due to the points you stated above... and yes it is possible...

keep it safe!