Opinion on dosage of Tren A, Mast & Test Prop pls.

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20 Aug 2009 14:40 #20519 by krielos
Hi Guys,

I am starting my diet/cut for summer only, not competition, next week. The following is my dosages for 4 weeks:

Tren Acetate 100mg/ml, Masteron Propionate 100mg/ml, Test Prop 100mg/ml : All of these at 1ml Monday and 1ml Thursday for 4 weeks. I know that the best dosages would be 1ml of each every three days but I can only afford to purchase 1 bottle of each of the above as I also have to purchase my diet food for the month and fat burners(tight budget due to the economic crises;) ). Will these dosages be effective?

After the intial 4 weeks I will be switching to Anavar 100mg/ml, Winstrol 100mg/ml and Test Prop 100mg/ml for 4 more weeks after which I will do PCT for 4 weeks which will include HCG, Nolva and Clomid.

My main concern is obviously whether these dosages would be effective... but because diet is key I will not spend more money on "medicine" and sacrifice my food. What is your opinions please...(Budget Bodybuilding:laugh: )Thanks.

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20 Aug 2009 15:11 #20532 by Empire
ummm why not instead of swapping to anavar and winstrol just carry on with the prop tren and masteron,and save more and do it properly,just by the way your idea of doing a jab every 3rd day is off,u need to do a jab every second day.... so monday wednesday friday etc..

rather save your money for more gear before u start,i take it u are getting 10ml bottles so u need 2 of each to make it a worth while cycle in the end...also what brand are u getting that makes anavar injectable at that dosage?the most i've seen is anavar 50mg but most common is anavar 25mg per ml. what band is it cos i've never heard of that...also what brand is your masteron prop? if its the quali-vet masteron good luck cos its known to be a fake.

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20 Aug 2009 15:43 #20546 by krielos
Thank you for your reply.My source is trusted and supplies to some of the top competitors in the country and imports directly. So far all products I have purchased has been legit. I understand that I would ideally have to jab Mon, Wed, Fri which I do when I compete but seeing as I am cutting for summer only I would like to opt for a lower dose and I do not want to wait to long to start my diet. I could probably just continue with the tren and mast seeing that I would be on a lower dosage and the tren would be less toxic. Maybe push up the test prop to 1.5 ml Mon and Thurs? Or would you say that these dosages would be ineffective and that i would have to increase to 300mg of each per week? Alternatively I could just jab 70mg of each Mon,Wed or Fri. which would also add up to about200mg per week? Your thoughts?

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20 Aug 2009 15:46 #20548 by Empire
instead of doing 1.5ml on the moday and thurday rather split the 3mls into more frequent injections in order to keep your blood levels constant... but u still havent answered me on what brands u are using

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20 Aug 2009 15:49 #20549 by Sting
krielos wrote:

Thank you for your reply.My source is trusted and supplies to some of the top competitors in the country and imports directly. So far all products I have purchased has been legit. I understand that I would ideally have to jab Mon, Wed, Fri which I do when I compete but seeing as I am cutting for summer only I would like to opt for a lower dose and I do not want to wait to long to start my diet. I could probably just continue with the tren and mast seeing that I would be on a lower dosage and the tren would be less toxic. Maybe push up the test prop to 1.5 ml Mon and Thurs? Or would you say that these dosages would be ineffective and that i would have to increase to 300mg of each per week? Alternatively I could just jab 70mg of each Mon,Wed or Fri. which would also add up to about200mg per week? Your thoughts?


How often you inject has nothing to do with the dose you are on. Its to do with the half lives of compounds you're taking in order to stabilise blood levels. You dont want fluctuations in your blood levels

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20 Aug 2009 16:01 #20554 by Empire
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krielos wrote:

Thank you for your reply.My source is trusted and supplies to some of the top competitors in the country and imports directly. So far all products I have purchased has been legit. I understand that I would ideally have to jab Mon, Wed, Fri which I do when I compete but seeing as I am cutting for summer only I would like to opt for a lower dose and I do not want to wait to long to start my diet. I could probably just continue with the tren and mast seeing that I would be on a lower dosage and the tren would be less toxic. Maybe push up the test prop to 1.5 ml Mon and Thurs? Or would you say that these dosages would be ineffective and that i would have to increase to 300mg of each per week? Alternatively I could just jab 70mg of each Mon,Wed or Fri. which would also add up to about200mg per week? Your thoughts?


How often you inject has nothing to do with the dose you are on. Its to do with the half lives of compounds you're taking in order to stabilise blood levels. You dont want fluctuations in your blood levels

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20 Aug 2009 16:06 #20557 by krielos
Beesting wrote:

krielos wrote:

Thank you for your reply.My source is trusted and supplies to some of the top competitors in the country and imports directly. So far all products I have purchased has been legit. I understand that I would ideally have to jab Mon, Wed, Fri which I do when I compete but seeing as I am cutting for summer only I would like to opt for a lower dose and I do not want to wait to long to start my diet. I could probably just continue with the tren and mast seeing that I would be on a lower dosage and the tren would be less toxic. Maybe push up the test prop to 1.5 ml Mon and Thurs? Or would you say that these dosages would be ineffective and that i would have to increase to 300mg of each per week? Alternatively I could just jab 70mg of each Mon,Wed or Fri. which would also add up to about200mg per week? Your thoughts?


How often you inject has nothing to do with the dose you are on. Its to do with the half lives of compounds you're taking in order to stabilise blood levels. You dont want fluctuations in your blood levels


Hi thanks for responding, I am aware of the proper injection protocol with regards to half lives and stable blood levels. My question though is not so much about the injection frequency as about the minimum effective dosage. In other words will the 200mg of each per week be effective enough for me to see the expected results? As there should be synergy between the substances?

In the past I have done twice weekly injections with substances with short half lives, such as winny and test suspension, and experienced great results keeping my diet extremely strict.

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20 Aug 2009 16:17 #20561 by Sting
krielos wrote:

Beesting wrote:

krielos wrote:

Thank you for your reply.My source is trusted and supplies to some of the top competitors in the country and imports directly. So far all products I have purchased has been legit. I understand that I would ideally have to jab Mon, Wed, Fri which I do when I compete but seeing as I am cutting for summer only I would like to opt for a lower dose and I do not want to wait to long to start my diet. I could probably just continue with the tren and mast seeing that I would be on a lower dosage and the tren would be less toxic. Maybe push up the test prop to 1.5 ml Mon and Thurs? Or would you say that these dosages would be ineffective and that i would have to increase to 300mg of each per week? Alternatively I could just jab 70mg of each Mon,Wed or Fri. which would also add up to about200mg per week? Your thoughts?


How often you inject has nothing to do with the dose you are on. Its to do with the half lives of compounds you're taking in order to stabilise blood levels. You dont want fluctuations in your blood levels


Hi thanks for responding, I am aware of the proper injection protocol with regards to half lives and stable blood levels. My question though is not so much about the injection frequency as about the minimum effective dosage. In other words will the 200mg of each per week be effective enough for me to see the expected results? As there should be synergy between the substances?

In the past I have done twice weekly injections with substances with short half lives, such as winny and test suspension, and experienced great results keeping my diet extremely strict.


You see I dont think you are 100% aware of the proper injection protocol with regards to half lives. You were taking winny twice a week!!! Winny has a half life of 24 hours, although this is controversial, but the fact still remains that a short half life means you should be injecting ED or at least EOD (ED for the case of winny).

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20 Aug 2009 16:30 #20567 by krielos
Beesting wrote:

krielos wrote:

Beesting wrote:

krielos wrote:

Thank you for your reply.My source is trusted and supplies to some of the top competitors in the country and imports directly. So far all products I have purchased has been legit. I understand that I would ideally have to jab Mon, Wed, Fri which I do when I compete but seeing as I am cutting for summer only I would like to opt for a lower dose and I do not want to wait to long to start my diet. I could probably just continue with the tren and mast seeing that I would be on a lower dosage and the tren would be less toxic. Maybe push up the test prop to 1.5 ml Mon and Thurs? Or would you say that these dosages would be ineffective and that i would have to increase to 300mg of each per week? Alternatively I could just jab 70mg of each Mon,Wed or Fri. which would also add up to about200mg per week? Your thoughts?


How often you inject has nothing to do with the dose you are on. Its to do with the half lives of compounds you're taking in order to stabilise blood levels. You dont want fluctuations in your blood levels


Hi thanks for responding, I am aware of the proper injection protocol with regards to half lives and stable blood levels. My question though is not so much about the injection frequency as about the minimum effective dosage. In other words will the 200mg of each per week be effective enough for me to see the expected results? As there should be synergy between the substances?

In the past I have done twice weekly injections with substances with short half lives, such as winny and test suspension, and experienced great results keeping my diet extremely strict.


You see I dont think you are 100% aware of the proper injection protocol with regards to half lives. You were taking winny twice a week!!! Winny has a half life of 24 hours, although this is controversial, but the fact still remains that a short half life means you should be injecting ED or at least EOD (ED for the case of winny).


Maybe I am not expressing myself properly. I know how it should be done and have done so but I have also done it twice weekly and experienced the same results with NO side effects.More is not neccesarily better, this injection protocol worked for my body.
You are missing my reason for posting here, can anyone tell me if 200mg Mast, 200mg Test prop and 200mg Tren A per week would be enough or is the dosage too little to see any effect?? Do I have to up it to 300mg of each minimum.I can split these dosages into EOD injections if need be.

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20 Aug 2009 16:36 #20569 by Sting
krielos wrote:

Beesting wrote:

krielos wrote:

Beesting wrote:

krielos wrote:

Thank you for your reply.My source is trusted and supplies to some of the top competitors in the country and imports directly. So far all products I have purchased has been legit. I understand that I would ideally have to jab Mon, Wed, Fri which I do when I compete but seeing as I am cutting for summer only I would like to opt for a lower dose and I do not want to wait to long to start my diet. I could probably just continue with the tren and mast seeing that I would be on a lower dosage and the tren would be less toxic. Maybe push up the test prop to 1.5 ml Mon and Thurs? Or would you say that these dosages would be ineffective and that i would have to increase to 300mg of each per week? Alternatively I could just jab 70mg of each Mon,Wed or Fri. which would also add up to about200mg per week? Your thoughts?


How often you inject has nothing to do with the dose you are on. Its to do with the half lives of compounds you're taking in order to stabilise blood levels. You dont want fluctuations in your blood levels


Hi thanks for responding, I am aware of the proper injection protocol with regards to half lives and stable blood levels. My question though is not so much about the injection frequency as about the minimum effective dosage. In other words will the 200mg of each per week be effective enough for me to see the expected results? As there should be synergy between the substances?

In the past I have done twice weekly injections with substances with short half lives, such as winny and test suspension, and experienced great results keeping my diet extremely strict.


You see I dont think you are 100% aware of the proper injection protocol with regards to half lives. You were taking winny twice a week!!! Winny has a half life of 24 hours, although this is controversial, but the fact still remains that a short half life means you should be injecting ED or at least EOD (ED for the case of winny).


Maybe I am not expressing myself properly. I know how it should be done and have done so but I have also done it twice weekly and experienced the same results with NO side effects.More is not neccesarily better, this injection protocol worked for my body.
You are missing my reason for posting here, can anyone tell me if 200mg Mast, 200mg Test prop and 200mg Tren A per week would be enough or is the dosage too little to see any effect?? Do I have to up it to 300mg of each minimum.I can split these dosages into EOD injections if need be.


I wasn't missing your reasoning, I was addressing the remainder of the info you gave. If you thought it wasn't important then why give it

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20 Aug 2009 16:40 #20571 by krielos
Beesting wrote:

krielos wrote:

Beesting wrote:

krielos wrote:

Beesting wrote:

krielos wrote:

Thank you for your reply.My source is trusted and supplies to some of the top competitors in the country and imports directly. So far all products I have purchased has been legit. I understand that I would ideally have to jab Mon, Wed, Fri which I do when I compete but seeing as I am cutting for summer only I would like to opt for a lower dose and I do not want to wait to long to start my diet. I could probably just continue with the tren and mast seeing that I would be on a lower dosage and the tren would be less toxic. Maybe push up the test prop to 1.5 ml Mon and Thurs? Or would you say that these dosages would be ineffective and that i would have to increase to 300mg of each per week? Alternatively I could just jab 70mg of each Mon,Wed or Fri. which would also add up to about200mg per week? Your thoughts?


How often you inject has nothing to do with the dose you are on. Its to do with the half lives of compounds you're taking in order to stabilise blood levels. You dont want fluctuations in your blood levels


Hi thanks for responding, I am aware of the proper injection protocol with regards to half lives and stable blood levels. My question though is not so much about the injection frequency as about the minimum effective dosage. In other words will the 200mg of each per week be effective enough for me to see the expected results? As there should be synergy between the substances?

In the past I have done twice weekly injections with substances with short half lives, such as winny and test suspension, and experienced great results keeping my diet extremely strict.


You see I dont think you are 100% aware of the proper injection protocol with regards to half lives. You were taking winny twice a week!!! Winny has a half life of 24 hours, although this is controversial, but the fact still remains that a short half life means you should be injecting ED or at least EOD (ED for the case of winny).


Maybe I am not expressing myself properly. I know how it should be done and have done so but I have also done it twice weekly and experienced the same results with NO side effects.More is not neccesarily better, this injection protocol worked for my body.
You are missing my reason for posting here, can anyone tell me if 200mg Mast, 200mg Test prop and 200mg Tren A per week would be enough or is the dosage too little to see any effect?? Do I have to up it to 300mg of each minimum.I can split these dosages into EOD injections if need be.


I wasn't missing your reasoning, I was addressing the remainder of the info you gave. If you thought it wasn't important then why give it


OK. Thank you for your input.

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20 Aug 2009 16:44 #20573 by krielos
Does anyone have experience using lower dosages of these substances together and what was your results like.

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20 Aug 2009 17:16 #20575 by vega5
I normally use 260mg TrenA a week with 300mg Prop a week and it works great.

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20 Aug 2009 22:43 #20601 by Inja
You want to know about the minimum dosage you can take?

It all depends on how big you are, how old you are, and what your relevant cycle and training experience to date is.

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21 Aug 2009 07:22 #20609 by 00pump
As Inja said...

And once again as Beesting stated... rather lower the dose and inject correctly as that will work allot better than injecting slightly higher dose in the wrong time....

If Ii use Tren I use 450mg a week.... then I start to see it working....

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21 Aug 2009 09:55 #20649 by krielos
Inja wrote:

You want to know about the minimum dosage you can take?

It all depends on how big you are, how old you are, and what your relevant cycle and training experience to date is.


Hi Inja,

I am 34 have been training for almost 10 years of which two have been competetive within the IFBB.Currently I weigh 90kg at 16% body fat but would like to get this to under 10%(Last year I maintained at about 6-8% after competing at 4%) Since February this year I have not been able to train like I used to and also relaxed my diet due to my work and life environment changing. I have recently started training and dieting again and would like to get into shape without using the big doses we use for comp and also due to financial constraints I am limited to only purchasing a certain amount per month. Tren A, Masteron, and Test Prop works fantastically but I only want to use two thirds of the doses I would normally use for contest prep thus my question with regards to dosing 200mg of each per week.

I can split these dosages and jab every 2nd day.

Your thoughts please?

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22 Aug 2009 00:40 #20697 by Inja
To clarify.
You've done some decent cycles in the past, as recently as last year.
You plan to use around 50mg EOD of Test prop, Tren A, and Masteron.

Given the above, you won't gain massive amounts of muscle with your plan, but with good diet you will definately drop the fat % and harden out very quickly. Without the tren I wouldn't think you'd gain more than a couple of kg's. But with the Tren in there it is possible you could put on some decent muscle while leaning out.
If this combo works for you, your not planning to compete but want to get into good shape, then give it a bash. 600mg a week of lean mass compounds can still work wonders.

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