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03 Sep 2009 13:13 #21697 by Saizen
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Fellas here seem to love Anavar. This will help with the misconceptions. Enjoy.

First, id like to get a few things straight about var.

MYTHS

Myth #1 - Anavar will not suppress the HPTA.
False. Anavar, used in adequate dosages, will shut you down. To what degree you experience side effects of suppression (loss of libido, lethargy) is entirely dependent upon the individual and the dosages used.

Myth #2 - Var is a weak anabolic, and is not effective unless stacked with a more androgenic compound.
This could not be further from the truth. At dosages of 40mg a day and higher, anavar is incredibly effective at adding water free LBM. At around day 6-7, increased vascularity should become apparent (assuming your oxandrolone is legitimate in its dosing), and strength gains should start appearing around day 14.
If used during a clean bulk, gains of 10-20 pounds are possible. If cutting, you will maintain weight, or even put on 5-10 pounds (depending on the rate of fat loss/severity of diet). You will keep all of your gains with proper PCT.

Myth #3 - Anavar will not require any type of PCT.
This is one ive never understood. It's a pretty commonly known fact now that var is a suppressive compound. So why is it that some individuals still refuse to make a small investment in some clomid/nolva....this is your testicular function we're talking about. That said, PCT required for var is not as "heavy" as PCT for, say, a test/eq cycle. 15-20 days @ 50mg clomid should be sufficient.


LIBIDO

The only real issue of concern that i have found when running anavar alone is slight libido suppression. Anavar is suppressive enough to where you WILL feel a difference in your sex drive (and not for the better ) when using 40+mg a day. There are three options to counteract this.

#1 - Tribulus + Avena Sativa - Trib at 4-7g a day and Avena Sativa at 3-4g a day tend to help prevent any loss in performance or ability to get it up. However, using effective dosages is going to end up being as or more expensive than options 2 or 3...but its your call.

#2 - Proviron - If hairloss is an issue in your choice to use anavar, then you may want to avoid this one. But 25mg ED proviron, starting after week 2, will keep you rock hard. And it will help to harden up your muscles too .

#3 - Maintenance Test Dosage - Finally, you could choose to use testosterone to keep your willy in shape. At a dosage of around 200mg, split bi weekly, everything should keep running smoothly. Also, this will contribute to your gains much moreso than than options 1 or 2. I would keep nolva onhand on the off chance that you are severely gyno prone. Bloating should not be an issue at this dosage.

BENEFITS

Anavar is a badass drug. This is why.

#1 - Vascularity
Oxandrolone will make you veiny as all hell. And quickly. Look out for brand new bulging forearms veins by around day 6. If you are following a cutting regimen, expect new spider webs in your chest, shoulders and quads by around day 21.

#2 - Pumps
When on var, the pumps are constant. Bored sitting in class/at work? Do some unweighted calf raises. After about three minutes, your calves will be ready to pop. Youll be doing something like drinking a cup of water, and after a minute of holding it, your bi will be completely full and pumped. You may have to cut some sets short in the gym due to the painful pumpage.

#3 - Strength
Even when cutting, you can expect new strength gains every workout after about day 14-21.

#4 - Fat Loss
Anavar has been shown to contribute to accelerated fat loss in both subcutaneous and visceral fat, concentrated effects in the abdomen and thigh area. And if youve used the drug, you can attest to this...if you cant sport the 6-8 pack look on var, its not gonna happen .

CYCLE

Anavar should be run @ at least 40mg a day to see all of the benefits it offers. Dosages upwards of 80mg have been shown to exhibit diminishing returns. Also, i cant imagine the intensity of the pumps at that kind of dosage.

Cycle #1
Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Tribulus 5-8g ED Weeks 1-12
Avena Sativa 2-4g ED Weeks 1-12
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

Cycle #2
Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Proviron 25mg ED Weeks 3-8
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

Cycle #3
Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Test Prop 50mg EOD Weeks 1-8
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

If bulking, Test Enanthate could be substituted for prop, and 100mg could be injected every 3-4 days...however, this could cause more bloating, and complicate PCT timing.

LIVER PROTECTION

Anavar is a 17 Alpha Alkylated steroid, and is toxic. It has been shown to be less toxic than other orals, and is even used as liver treatment for recovering alcoholics. Still, i would limit my time using it to 8 weeks, 10 at the most.

It would be beneficial to you liver to use several different OTC supplements during, and perhaps after your cycle. A few preventive measures never hurt anyone .

1 - Milk Thistle
The classic liver protectant herb.supposedly works by blocking the entrance of harmful substances to liver cells, and hastening their expulsion. Make sure there is a high standardization of Silymarin

2 - R ALA
A powerful antioxidant

3 - NAC
Supports liver function and production of l-glutathione

4 - Vitamin C and E
Antioxidants

5 - LOADS of water
Helps to flush out your entire system

LIPID PROTECTION

Anavar isnt going to kill your cholesterol levels like some drugs (winny being one of the worst), but it may put your LDL/HDL profiles outside of the normal range. There are a few things that help, but as long as your not using 60+mg daily or running it for more than 10 weeks, i would just use flax...

1 - Flax Oil
Consuming lots of omega fatty acids promotes overall health, as well as helping to keep your lipid profile from becoming too bad.

2 - Policosanol
Used at 20mg daily to keep your HDL (good cholesterol) levels from crashing, and your LDL from becoming too high.

3 - Niacin
Preferably the flush free variety. If you wish, niacin can be used at 1-2g ED for a short period post-cycle to normalize HDL levels. Do not use for more than 7-14 days, as liver toxicity can be an issue when using those dosages of niacin for long periods of time.



I hope that people read this, and that it helps those doing their research to make the correct decision. If anyone sees any glaring errors, or has something important to add, hit me with a PM and ill do some editing.

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03 Sep 2009 13:53 #21709 by Lesa
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Biggest problem with anavar is that it is impossible to find in human grade as its made only by some mexican company. Everything else is UG and quite frankly you can never be too sure about that.

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03 Sep 2009 15:25 #21732 by Netro
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Nice

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03 Sep 2009 15:30 #21734 by 00pump
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lol Lesa... there are so many great UG labs out there...

You think you going to find EQ designed for Humans? doubt it.... so what never take one of the most awsome steroids ever created?

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03 Sep 2009 19:45 #21753 by Lesa
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By human grade i meant to say proper pharmacutical companies and i know that there are great UG labs but they are never consistent 100 % like proper companies are. Please dont even try argue there i have yet to see equipose thats better that RwR in SA thats made by any UG lab.

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03 Sep 2009 22:35 #21760 by jackrabbit1
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On LP Var at 80mg/day on top of a TRT dose TestEn.
My Joints are KILLING me. Strength right down.
Dropping the dose to 60 to see what happens.

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04 Sep 2009 16:43 #21844 by juicy
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nice one saizen :goodpoint

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06 Sep 2009 00:57 #21929 by HULKman
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Whats the best anavar ? LP or PGW?

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07 Sep 2009 15:30 #22048 by Barbell
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`scuse the ignorance but what is a PCT as mentioned in the OP?B)

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07 Sep 2009 15:43 #22053 by Saizen
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Post Cycle Treatment...

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07 Sep 2009 16:09 #22059 by Barbell
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Saizen wrote:

Post Cycle Treatment...


I see...thanks....B)

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07 Sep 2009 23:29 #22077 by Inja
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True story. Not intended to be hurtful, but I cracked out laughing and thought I'd share.
My lady reads the forum fairly frequently, and today she pulled me aside from work to show me a thread where someone believed they could buy clen at dischem. She then showed me another thread where the same person asked what the word PCT stood for...
After this she turned to be and said, I think he is the wrong piece of gym equipment. It says he is a barbell but I think he's really a dumbbell...:laugh:

True story...
Gotta have some serious lack of education to elicit that kinda response from my lady.
But I do not intend to offend.
True story B)

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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08 Sep 2009 00:03 #22086 by Mr Moose
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ha ha ha ha ha: made my day!
:doh :stupid :crazy :redcard :banghead

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08 Sep 2009 00:38 #22091 by HULKman
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hahahahahhahahahahaha......That cracked me up

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08 Sep 2009 07:08 #22093 by Barbell
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Inja wrote:

True story. Not intended to be hurtful, but I cracked out laughing and thought I'd share.
My lady reads the forum fairly frequently, and today she pulled me aside from work to show me a thread where someone believed they could buy clen at dischem. She then showed me another thread where the same person asked what the word PCT stood for...
After this she turned to be and said, I think he is the wrong piece of gym equipment. It says he is a barbell but I think he's really a dumbbell...:laugh:

True story...
Gotta have some serious lack of education to elicit that kinda response from my lady.
But I do not intend to offend.
True story B)


Thanks....:laugh: makes note to self *self.....do not ask questions on forum.....google does not judge"....:laugh:

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08 Sep 2009 09:35 #22110 by Fox
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Very nice post......Could make a nice STICKY ;-)

Would not mind someone with experience doing something similar for a tbol cycle......... Juuuuust a thought......

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08 Sep 2009 10:51 #22118 by 00pump
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Inja you crack me up

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08 Sep 2009 12:31 #22128 by Mr Moose
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No dumbell. Sorry barbell seroisly all in the name of a little fun: You're welcome 2 ask as many questions as you want and I can guarantee you won't get better advice anywhere else.

But be serious dude: get your head in the game, learn at least the basics, check sh1t out for yourself, make comparisons and options for what you want and come back with a more informed and slightly more logical wave of questions and whatever else you can conjure up+
good luck bro peace!

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09 Sep 2009 07:52 #22169 by Fox
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With the PCT for a anavar cycle could one do 4 weeks of nolva/ kessar instead of the clomid???

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09 Sep 2009 14:11 #22215 by Saizen
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I am sure Nolva/Kessar will be fine, the guys in the States love Clomid for some reason.

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09 Sep 2009 16:49 #22244 by Fox
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Great i wanna do a var cycle and tbol cycle during the course of next year, separately of coarse, and I am planning on using 4 weeks kessar as pct for both as both are not that harsh. not to keen on the clomid from some of the sides i have heard of.

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11 Sep 2009 10:45 #22479 by Barbell
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In regards to the Var cycle below would the dosage mentioned in the OP be influenced by body weight etc.? In the next couple of weeks I will start a cysle and just want to get the dosage correct.

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11 Sep 2009 12:21 #22489 by Saizen
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BB, what are you asking here? Your messages are a bit confusing bro...

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11 Sep 2009 12:45 #22492 by Barbell
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just trying to establish if the dosage of Anavar varies depending on the size of the person taking it.....in the cycle below it says to use between 40-50mg...but on what body weight is that based on....?

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11 Sep 2009 14:09 #22498 by Sting
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Its not based on body weight its based on how your body metabolises and uses the compound. So if you dont have experience on which dose works best for you then take 40 mg. 50mg isn't much different so if you choose to take 50mg thats fine too.

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