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05 Sep 2009 17:27 #21914 by Merick
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I'm on a cycle of dianabol every day with EQ and test prop every other day. The Dianabol is coming to an end and was wondering what would be the best thing to stack with the test prop for cutting and fat burning towards the end of my cycle?

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05 Sep 2009 17:31 #21915 by Merick
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Oh yes and i had just ordered stanozol in suspension but read on here that its not so great should i cancel that perhaps?

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05 Sep 2009 23:17 #21925 by Mr Moose
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How long is your proposed cycle in total? how long were you on the d-bol for?? For what you want nothing is gonna beat LP Anavar hey. if you got about 6 week+- left of cycle it will be perfect 40-80mg per day depending on your stats and goals- drop the test in the last 10-14 days so you harden up nicely. The winstrol isnt that bad will do a similar trick but is less effective and has more sides (if using winnie run same way). Give some more info bout your stats and cycle & you will get some more feedback.
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06 Sep 2009 03:25 #21937 by Inja
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Any fat burner will help to cut up, but you will not see the full effect of AAS used to harden up if your prop dosage remains high enough to outcompete non-aromatisable compounds... The winnie will work fine if all is in check, I don't see the var being much different.

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06 Sep 2009 10:40 #21950 by Merick
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I've been on the D-bol for 2 weeks, but the cycle in total is 12 weeks so i've actually just started really, was told to do 30mg of D-bol a day and wasnt sure if it was too little!

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06 Sep 2009 16:28 #21956 by Mr Moose
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And ur dosages for the EQ and test prop??
ok so quite a long cycle- u can jam the eq and test by themselves 4 a while and hit either the Var or Winie in the last 6 weeks as I said drop the test and even the Eq in last 10-14 days.
You could use some clen 1st 2 weeks of PCT should harden you up nicely/keep you ananbolic/ solidify your gains. Iam actually about 2 start a programme and gonna try the clen at the end- what anti-e are u running??

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06 Sep 2009 16:45 #21958 by Merick
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Oh yes sorry, the prop is 180mg and the EQ is at 210mg EOD which yes I do together and D-bol as mentioned is ending soon, so thanks for the info, but just to make sure would i use the Var everyday for 6 weeks and would that still be at the suggested 40-80mg?

I'm using tamoxifen at at 40mg for 6 days then at 20mg for the last 14 days, I then have HcG but not sure how much to use and when, is it the same as pregnyl which was suggested to be at 1500mg 3 times on different days? Would 5000mg be enough? and when and how much would i use?

Thanks so much for your help!!!!

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06 Sep 2009 18:09 #21963 by Mr Moose
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Ok Schweet schweet yea the VAr would b that dose:
woah dood are u not running an anti-e during ur cycle? suggest u get some letro or something asap. even if ur not gyno prone will help make your gains look better, keep water retention down and prevent other sides.

Yea its the same as pregnyl rather run the hcg at 500iu eod over 3+ weeks till uve done 4500iu total? understand? start it in ur last week of test shots.

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06 Sep 2009 21:16 #21976 by Merick
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Ok dude! Can get Letro as an oral liquid but when and how much do i use and do i use it even though im gonna go onto the Tamoxifen?

And wanted to also ask you about the Clen can you tell me when and gow much of that 2?

Tanx once again!

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06 Sep 2009 21:18 #21977 by Merick
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Oh yes just to make sure is the Anavar every-day?

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06 Sep 2009 21:32 #21978 by Sting
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Merick wrote:

Oh yes just to make sure is the Anavar every-day?


Half life of eight hours so twice a day (three if you wish)

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06 Sep 2009 21:41 #21979 by Merick
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Sorry Inja dont want to sound like a moron but could you explain the non-aromatisable compounds competeing with the prop, should the prop be tapered off?

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06 Sep 2009 21:46 #21980 by Mr Moose
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Yea good stuff run it .25mg everyday through whole cycle- taper it down during ur last week before pct to .1mg: this worked for me.
eg: last week of cycle before pct-
day 1: .25
day 2: .20
day 3: .15
day 4: .1
day 5: .1
day 6: .1
day 7: .1

next day tamoxifen:

then var everday as beesting said 20mg per tab so one morning, one midday, one afternoon.

Clen beesting just gave me good advice- run it starting 1st day pct. 2 weeks on 2 weeks off for 6 weeks. on your 2 weeks on:
run it-
day 1: 40mcg
day 2: 50mcg
day 3: 50mcg
day 4: 60mcg
day 5: 60mcg
day 6: 70mcg
day 7: 80mcg*
*stick at this dose for next 7 days- run higher if you want.
Anytime- peace man

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07 Sep 2009 23:00 #22074 by Inja
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Merick wrote:

Oh yes sorry, the prop is 180mg and the EQ is at 210mg EOD


So your doing 720mg of test prop a week with a tiny short ester than will be out the system quick, and then your shooting Equipoise EOD to a total of 840mg a week. Because the EQ has a super uber duper half life, it will be in the body for a super uber duper long time after your last shot... Why the arbitrary choice of compounds?
You will need to do your PCT several weeks after your last EQ shot, and this between is as good a time as any to throw in those hardening up compounds you were on about at the top of the thread.

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Sorry Inja dont want to sound like a moron but could you explain the non-aromatisable compounds competeing with the prop, should the prop be tapered off?


Well buddy, compounds like winnie and var harden you up because when they are in the system they do not convert to estrogen, but still surpress natural testosterone production (which would normally convert to estrogen). This means there is no estrogen circulating in the body and thus you harden up. However if you introduce exogenous aromatisable compounds concurrently then there is a competition in the body for which compound will bind the aromtase enzyme, the aromatisable ones, or the non-aromatisable ones... If the aromatisable compounds are in higher concentration, more will bind the enzyme, and more estrogen willbe produced... and vice versa.

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09 Sep 2009 15:17 #22233 by Merick
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Once you have mixed hCG does it have to be kept in the fridge or can it be kept in a dark, dry place?

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09 Sep 2009 15:18 #22234 by Sting
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Fridge

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09 Sep 2009 15:19 #22235 by North_Boy1
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Merick wrote:

Once you have mixed hCG does it have to be kept in the fridge or can it be kept in a dark, dry place?


After mixing straight into fridge and keep at plus minus 5 deg C until use.

If everybody does it, is it still cheating?

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09 Sep 2009 23:31 #22282 by Lesa
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What you guys on about HCG must be in the fridge all the time even before mixing same as GH.

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10 Sep 2009 07:41 #22292 by jackrabbit1
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Lesa wrote:

What you guys on about HCG must be in the fridge all the time even before mixing same as GH.


Yip - Ovidrel doesnt need to be in the fridge before reconstitution.

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11 Sep 2009 00:13 #22427 by Inja
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Actuall Jack, it's better to keep it in the fridge. This goes for all proteins.

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11 Sep 2009 19:53 #22507 by Merick
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Dudes sorry i know this might seem like a stupid question, after ample explanation, but got my letro today, on the bottle it says 5mg/ml (i ordered 2.5mg/ml so I'm assuming its not that then), I still not sure how much to use and how to do it, am I supposed to drink it? and how much would .25 be? how do you work it out? sorry but math has never been a strong point lol.

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11 Sep 2009 20:22 #22509 by Sting
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Merick wrote:

Dudes sorry i know this might seem like a stupid question, after ample explanation, but got my letro today, on the bottle it says 5mg/ml (i ordered 2.5mg/ml so I'm assuming its not that then), I still not sure how much to use and how to do it, am I supposed to drink it? and how much would .25 be? how do you work it out? sorry but math has never been a strong point lol.


Yes you drink it, drop it under your tongue if you wish. 50 drops is a ml which is 2.5 mg so 0.25 mg is 5 drops. You work it out by solving for x or alternatively 0.25 is a tenth of 2.5 and so a tenth of fifty drops is five drops...yes its that simple

If your bottle you ordered says 5 mg/ ml then five drops will give you 0.5 mg

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24 Sep 2009 19:03 #23767 by Merick
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I was just wondering I'm ending my cycle in about 6 weeks how long should i wait till i start a new one?

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24 Sep 2009 19:32 #23771 by Sting
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How long have u been on so far? Usually time off is the same as the time u spent on cycle including the pct

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24 Sep 2009 19:35 #23773 by Inja
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Merick wrote:

I was just wondering I'm ending my cycle in about 6 weeks how long should i wait till i start a new one?

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