Hardening up after cycle....what to use

  • andre300
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
07 Sep 2009 09:56 #21995 by andre300
Hardening up after cycle....what to use was created by andre300
Hi guys and girl ( beesting)

This week is my last week before i start my pct. Dis a test,var & win cycle. Running the win for only 2 weeks at 60mg a day.
My question:

Does not seem like the win is hardening me up at all, so what can i do to permanently harden up my muscles?

DJ Easy, can diet assist with this o must i wait til next cycle and just plan around that.

Here are some before & after stats:

Before:
109 kg @ 19%BF

After:
116 kg @ 12%BF

So all in all good results, just want to harden up some more.

would it be possible to extend winny and start later with pct?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Empire
  • Expert
  • Expert
More
07 Sep 2009 10:09 #21997 by Empire
Replied by Empire on topic Hardening up after cycle....what to use
no winny in your pct,u should harden up and drop water post cycle if your pct is solid...

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • andre300
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
07 Sep 2009 10:24 #22001 by andre300
Replied by andre300 on topic Hardening up after cycle....what to use
@ DJ
Been runnung HCG since week 6 and ending HCG before PCT. clomid 100mg x 5days, 5 days off, 50mgx 5days, 5 days of and then 50mg x 5 days. also running kessar for 30 days, starting same time as clomid.

Why then did u recommend the winny for 2 weeks from last shot of test to before PCT start?
Does not sem like its adding anything.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Extreme
  • Elite Member
  • Elite Member
More
07 Sep 2009 12:11 #22011 by Extreme
Replied by Extreme on topic Hardening up after cycle....what to use
The winny should have harderned you up.
The 1st time I took winny I got really hard but the 2nd time didn't notice much, I used Nomad winny.
Stop the winny before beginning pct.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • andre300
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
07 Sep 2009 12:58 #22023 by andre300
Replied by andre300 on topic Hardening up after cycle....what to use
Extreme wrote:

The winny should have harderned you up.
The 1st time I took winny I got really hard but the 2nd time didn't notice much, I used Nomad winny.
Stop the winny before beginning pct.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • andre300
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
07 Sep 2009 13:01 #22024 by andre300
Replied by andre300 on topic Hardening up after cycle....what to use
Extreme wrote:

The winny should have harderned you up.
The 1st time I took winny I got really hard but the 2nd time didn't notice much, I used Nomad winny.
Stop the winny before beginning pct.


I have 5 days left before pct starts, so maybe the winny will do its magic in those 5 days?!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Sting
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
07 Sep 2009 13:22 #22025 by Sting
Replied by Sting on topic Hardening up after cycle....what to use
In that case i would just leave the winny and use it another time

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • andre300
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
07 Sep 2009 13:41 #22027 by andre300
Replied by andre300 on topic Hardening up after cycle....what to use
I've got just enough left for 5 days, so i'll ma finish it, nothing bad can come of it.
So when we getting some pics of ur results B ;)

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Sting
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
07 Sep 2009 13:55 #22030 by Sting
Replied by Sting on topic Hardening up after cycle....what to use
Gonna try do some cutting still and hopefully I wont lose any muscle during the cut

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Inja
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
07 Sep 2009 23:24 #22076 by Inja
Replied by Inja on topic Hardening up after cycle....what to use
Bro, it takes time to drop water and harden up while other compounds are still clearing and estrogen production is lowering. Only once the estrogen is gone will you be hard. You could extend the winnie in order to achieve this yes, but make sure PCT starts after winnie and all other androgens are out the system...

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Dinamo
  • Senior Member
  • Senior Member
More
12 Sep 2009 18:28 #22549 by Dinamo
Replied by Dinamo on topic Hardening up after cycle....what to use
Hi !
Think you made some very nice progress on your cycle !
In my opinion, PCT is not the optimal time to try and shred/dieting. Well, at least not, if that means you wanna go into cal deficit. That would bring you into a more catabolic state and you might loose more of your gains. Keep the cal up, get some creatine, leucine (maybe eca for pre-work out, if you have to), don't panic and wait for your body to get into the natural balance again.
You got good results for now!
How about a ot, winy, test prop cutting cycle (8wks) in 3-4 months ?

Regards,
Dina

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Powered by Kunena Forum