4th Cycle

Hi Guys and Girls,

I had to postpone my 12 week cycle due to some unforseen circumstances. Two very experienced BB'ers suggested I do the following cycle:
Week 1 - 8:
Test 300
Equi 350

Week 9 - 12
Test Prop
Masteron

Run and oral front load in week 1 - 4 of either T-Bol or Var

Beginning on 28 Sept 2009 I am going on a 8 week cycle and therefore the 12 week cycle will have to be altered. I need some expert advice on a 8 week cycle with max lean muscle gains and minimal side effects(acne). The suggested cycle should also include PCT.
Your valuable input will be highly appreciated.
Regards.
NB1

If I dont ask someone else will...does that mean your unforseen circumstances are gonna be sorted out soon

Beesting wrote:

If I dont ask someone else will...does that mean your unforseen circumstances are gonna be sorted out soon

Hi Bee,
It's been sorted out, hence the reason starting on 28 Sept, to allow for ordering, delivery, ect.

i would do maybe 14-16 week cycle dude,equi and test for 10weeks,350mg equi and 600mg test. then do 1 ml of prop with masteron for 4 weeks and then test prop and winstrol orals for 2weeks and then u can start your pct...masteron has an enanthate ester so it will take 2 weeks before u can start pct... so looks like this

week 1-10
350mg equi
600mg test

week 11-14
1ml prop and masteron

week 15 and 16
test prop and winstrol orals

week 17-19
hcg 500iu eod,
kessar 20mg a day

They can't be that 'experienced' if they advising 8 weeks EQ as I only start seeing proper effects after 10 weeks and do 14/16 weeks EQ...

You can swop over to Test Prop from Test E and I find using EQ + Letro is just as good as masteron except cheeper cycle...

I would do Week 1/14(or 16) EQ

And what I did on this cycle is do week 1 / 15 Test and stop test the last week and then throw some winstrol in the last week before PCT so I keep myself anabolic while I wait for the long esters to work out and go into my PCT, during this time I use HCG...

Thats good news, Im sure your wife is happy. Just making sure just in case you were starting another cycle without sorting everything else out 100%. Anyways good luck

djeasye wrote:

i would do maybe 14-16 week cycle dude,equi and test for 10weeks,350mg equi and 600mg test. then do 1 ml of prop with masteron for 4 weeks and then test prop and winstrol orals for 2weeks and then u can start your pct...masteron has an enanthate ester so it will take 2 weeks before u can start pct... so looks like this

week 1-10
350mg equi
600mg test

week 11-14
1ml prop and masteron

week 15 and 16
test prop and winstrol orals

week 17-19
hcg 500iu eod,
kessar 20mg a day

DJ,
Your cycle looks good, but I have only got 8 weeks to spare. On 5 December Nedbank golf at Sun City where I am expected to be social followed by more functions, ect.

00pump wrote:

They can't be that 'experienced' if they advising 8 weeks EQ as I only start seeing proper effects after 10 weeks and do 14/16 weeks EQ...

Pump, they walk among us.............

have u ordered your good yet then? mail me maybe i can suggest something shorter for u then...

djeasye wrote:

have u ordered your good yet then? mail me maybe i can suggest something shorter for u then...

DJ, no haven't ordered anything yet and thanks you will receive my mail in 5 minutes.

rather then change the cycle if you have not ordered... please take my word on this I use EQ every single cycle................

EQ only cycles, EQ / Test cycles, EQ / Winnie cycles... for the first 4 weeks all I have is an increase in hunger... after that I start getting some strength, after 10 weeks I start looking good, after 14/16 weeks i'm hard as hell, veins are coming out and I have allot of oxygen when doing work outs....

dj's answer is also good, as you can see we end in a very similar style.... if you want I can give you quots out of all the books / sites, etc I have read that recomend EQ for at least 12 weeks....

Hi Dudes, I am just starting a cycle test E 600mgs per week + d/Bol first 6 weeks @ 40mgs per day
OO do you recomend EQ @350mgs per week to run alond side this cycle and why, what benifits.
I intend to add letro .25mgs per day to combat
any gyno, can I add T3 to keep the weight in check??

Addin EQ helps with maintaining gains, also helps with increased hunger so you can consume the needed calories...

It also makes you nice and strong and gives me extra oxygen when pressing out sets....

your metabolism on a cycle is allready speeded up I wouldn't use it during the cycle...

0.25 mg should do the trick, start that a few days before you start your cycle... as it takes time to get kicking in and using dbol kicks in quick so you want to make sure you covered from the get go....

I won't run a cycle without EQ its so nice and safe and I get no sides from it... _nothing_ no elevated bp, no water retention (well mild) and I get all the pluses of a highly anabolic agent.

thanks

Thanks for info,

Anybody else want to give comments or suggestions regarding a 4th cycle of 8 weeks? Please guys, check first post of this thread........

well your cycle is a no go for 8 weeks.. modify it paste up here and lets look, don't add eq to an add week cycle... simple.

00pump wrote:

well your cycle is a no go for 8 weeks.. modify it paste up here and lets look, don't add eq to an add week cycle... simple.

Pump, what do you think of this for a 8 week cycle?

week 1-6
1ml of test prop 1ml masteron eod(or tren acetate instead of the masteron)
anavar 40mg a day for 25days.

week 7-8
winstrol at 50mg a day

week 9-12 pct.

why did you stop the prop? why you not running these short esters right till the end of the cycle? many people are not happy with results of prop unless done for 8 weeks...

sorry i forgot to include the prop is week 7-8 lol...

North_Boy1 wrote:

00pump wrote:

well your cycle is a no go for 8 weeks.. modify it paste up here and lets look, don't add eq to an add week cycle... simple.

Pump, what do you think of this for a 8 week cycle?

week 1-6
1ml of test prop 1ml masteron eod(or tren acetate instead of the masteron)
anavar 40mg a day for 25days.

week 7-8
winstrol at 50mg a day

week 9-12 pct.

Don't think the anavar is really worth it. I don't see much benefit for strength etc in the way you've stacked it, especially for the price tag...

each to their own i guess inja,i have used it for 25days at that dosage with a good result so yea thats why i have stacked it like that...

cycle looks good if prop is run till the end... jeah, anavar is a bit pricy, but it does work.....

North_Boy1 wrote:

00pump wrote:

well your cycle is a no go for 8 weeks.. modify it paste up here and lets look, don't add eq to an add week cycle... simple.

Pump, what do you think of this for a 8 week cycle?

week 1-6
1ml of test prop 1ml masteron eod(or tren acetate instead of the masteron)
anavar 40mg a day for 25days.

week 7-8
winstrol at 50mg a day

week 9-12 pct.

Looks good, but add the prop in week 7 - 8.
I would also use the new PGW 5 ester test in week 1 - 6.
Don't use the tren, stick with Masteron.
Var for 25 days, agree with Inja here. Maybe look at D-Bol as the winny and prop on the back end will sort water out.

Nice additions:
Proviron in week 7-8

PCT:
Clomid and Kessar, HCG, Clenbuterol

Netro wrote:

North_Boy1 wrote:

00pump wrote:

well your cycle is a no go for 8 weeks.. modify it paste up here and lets look, don't add eq to an add week cycle... simple.

Pump, what do you think of this for a 8 week cycle?

week 1-6
1ml of test prop 1ml masteron eod(or tren acetate instead of the masteron)
anavar 40mg a day for 25days.

week 7-8
winstrol at 50mg a day

week 9-12 pct.

Looks good, but add the prop in week 7 - 8.
I would also use the new PGW 5 ester test in week 1 - 6.
Don't use the tren, stick with Masteron.
Var for 25 days, agree with Inja here. Maybe look at D-Bol as the winny and prop on the back end will sort water out.

Nice additions:
Proviron in week 7-8

PCT:
Clomid and Kessar, HCG, Clenbuterol

Welcome back Netro,
Did you receive the e-mail I sent to Admin and yourself?

Netro no offence, just wondering why would you recomend using the their test combo if you not going to benefit from the long acting esters ? why not just use test prop only, I have never seen any proof that shows using different types of test will help with gains... a single straight forward test from start to end will work just the same as any other coctail you might make?