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16 Sep 2009 08:00 #22939 by Barbell
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If you had to run a cycle of Anavar with no PCT what would the impact be on your system? How long would it take for your system to be back to normal?

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16 Sep 2009 08:24 #22943 by Fox
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I am not sure how long, but by not doing a pct you will be putting your hard earned gains at risk. Get your levels back up as soon as possible.

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16 Sep 2009 08:27 #22945 by Barbell
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Fox wrote:

I am not sure how long, but by not doing a pct you will be putting your hard earned gains at risk. Get your levels back up as soon as possible.


Ok...forgive the basic questions here:blush: but why would it be risking the gains? Am I correct in saying your testosterone levels would be zero hence no ability to maintain the gains?

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16 Sep 2009 08:46 #22956 by Fox
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From what i understand...yes and no. Yes your test levels will be effected negatively post cycle and you will need to get them back up to their normal functioning selves. No because anavar does not suppress natural test levels as much as some of the heavier compounds. However because you will be using higher doses of this compound to attain greater results, this does become an issue when using var. Oh, its not just the test you wanna bring back up but the estrogen you wanna suppress.

This is what i understand from my own limited knowledge and research of the subject. Some of the more experienced guys may be able to shed better light.

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16 Sep 2009 08:56 #22964 by Barbell
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Thanks man...if anyone else can contribute to the answer I`d appreciate it... B)

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16 Sep 2009 09:11 #22971 by Fox
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I am toying with the idea of adding a natural test booster to the kessar as it seems to be slightly better at estrogen suppression than test boosting.

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16 Sep 2009 21:36 #23073 by Mr Moose
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Barbell why dont you just run some Kessar dude they just pills, they easy to come by and then you wil be safe 20 mg every day 20 days for anavar is even enough. Just to make sure, you wont need hcg unless your var dose is off the chain. And its chilled eat right (be even more concerned bout your food, important stage) and keep pumping! vitamins, creas etc.. CONFIRM YOUR GAINS.

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17 Sep 2009 07:55 #23082 by Barbell
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Thanks Moose...so as I understand it the Kessar will be for the prevention of the anavar converting the testosterone into estrogen by blocking the estrogen receptors. The tribulis is to boost the testosterone levels.

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17 Sep 2009 12:13 #23104 by Mr Moose
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didn't know u were takin trib, but yea that's spot on: you must watch your dose though some sources are very misleading as far as tribulus dosage goes. I used it on my last cycle was great 1000mg - 1200mg every day from beginning PCT and taper off during the last week or so.
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17 Sep 2009 12:48 #23112 by Sting
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Barbell wrote:

Thanks Moose...so as I understand it the Kessar will be for the prevention of the anavar converting the testosterone into estrogen by blocking the estrogen receptors. The tribulis is to boost the testosterone levels.


BTW, anavar doesnt convert to oestrogen!!!

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17 Sep 2009 14:25 #23130 by Inja
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Barbell wrote:

Thanks Moose...so as I understand it the Kessar will be for the prevention of the anavar converting the testosterone into estrogen by blocking the estrogen receptors. The tribulis is to boost the testosterone levels.


Anavar is not an enzyme, its a steroid hormone. Thus anavar cannot convert testosterone to anything. In addition blocking the estrogen receptor will not prevent the formation of estrogen. The kessar following anavar is a PCT protocol...

Admin, guys, anybody... Is there a way to forcefully change BARbells name until he has done more learning??? :S :S :S

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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17 Sep 2009 15:02 #23141 by milktuds
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Inja wrote:

Barbell wrote:

Thanks Moose...so as I understand it the Kessar will be for the prevention of the anavar converting the testosterone into estrogen by blocking the estrogen receptors. The tribulis is to boost the testosterone levels.


Anavar is not an enzyme, its a steroid hormone. Thus anavar cannot convert testosterone to anything. In addition blocking the estrogen receptor will not prevent the formation of estrogen. The kessar following anavar is a PCT protocol...

Admin, guys, anybody... Is there a way to forcefully change BARbells name until he has done more learning??? :S :S :S


LOL. It has been suggested Inja.

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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17 Sep 2009 16:03 #23158 by Barbell
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Inja wrote:

Barbell wrote:

Thanks Moose...so as I understand it the Kessar will be for the prevention of the anavar converting the testosterone into estrogen by blocking the estrogen receptors. The tribulis is to boost the testosterone levels.


Anavar is not an enzyme, its a steroid hormone. Thus anavar cannot convert testosterone to anything. In addition blocking the estrogen receptor will not prevent the formation of estrogen. The kessar following anavar is a PCT protocol...

Admin, guys, anybody... Is there a way to forcefully change BARbells name until he has done more learning??? :S :S :S


oh well excuse me "Mr knew everything as soon as he was born"...Since when is it a crime not to know everything about gear and how it works???? jesus...instead of just corecting and moving on you find it necessary to insult and act like a 12 year old....if you dont see yourself giving me decent, well mannered answers then just put me on your ignore list.....

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17 Sep 2009 16:11 #23160 by milktuds
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He's just messing with you. Relax.

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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17 Sep 2009 16:17 #23161 by Netro
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Before things get out of hand ....
We are all here to learn and to help those who do not know as much as we do.
It is a little annoying when guys ask questions that have been answered over and over again, BUT, if a senior member does feel that the question has been addressed on numerous occasions we should just say so and point the junior in the right direction.

This forum and it's members have been well behaved and have given solid advice, let's not spoil the sharing with digs at each other.

Both sides have valid claims .... put this behind you and move on.

Rather ask the "stupid" questions here and get correct (sometimes nicely and other times not so nice) than making incorrect assumptions and hurting yourself.

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17 Sep 2009 16:47 #23166 by Fox
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Well put :clapclap

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17 Sep 2009 16:53 #23167 by North_Boy1
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Netro wrote:

Both sides have valid claims .... put this behind you and move on.



Soos hulle in Afrikaans sal se: Bou 'n fokken brug en kom daaroor.


If everybody does it, is it still cheating?

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18 Sep 2009 09:13 #23194 by WTF
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What is the best time to take Var, all at once or split it up during the coarse of the day?

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18 Sep 2009 10:48 #23215 by Barbell
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WTF wrote:

What is the best time to take Var, all at once or split it up during the coarse of the day?


From what I have read on two of various info sites:



The rule of thumb to take 0.125 mg/pound of body weight daily has proven successful in clinical tests. The tablets are normally taken two to three times daily after meals thus assuring an optimal absorption of the substance. Those who get the already discussed gastrointestinal pain when taking Oxandrolone are better off taking the tablets one to two hours after a meal or switching to another compound.

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The clinical dosing of Anavar is between 2.5 mg to 20 mg split into 2 to 4 doses a day. The rule of thumb for its use in bodybuilding says that for ideal results, 0.125 mg Anavar per pound of body weight would suffice. Some bodybuilders increase this to 0.2 mg per pound successfully.

Hope this helps....

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18 Sep 2009 11:10 #23218 by Mr Moose
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Yea that's pretty in depth tho: so put simply if ur using LP var for example (i take 60mg per day) so 20mg per serving/per tablet and hit it morning after breakfast, Midday after midday snack and then early evening.
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18 Sep 2009 11:47 #23229 by WTF
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Got this from Anabolics 2009

"Studies have shown that taking an oral anabolic steroid with food may decrease its bioavailability.This is caused by the fat-soluble nature of steroid hormones, which can allow some of the drug to dissolve with undigested dietary fat, reducing its absorption from the gastrointestinal tract. For maximum utilization, this steroid should be taken on an empty stomach. "

They say orals shouldn't be taken on with food.

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18 Sep 2009 11:53 #23230 by Empire
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i'd like to see someone take var on an empty stomach,it does kinda fuck your appetite up big time

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18 Sep 2009 11:59 #23234 by Barbell
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I think ultimately one has to see if the gastro reactions are positive or negative and then take it accordingly in relation to food intake but what I believe is the way to go is to spread the var intake over the day so as to keep the maximum level in your system at all times for max gains....

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18 Sep 2009 20:01 #23292 by Sting
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Barbell wrote:

WTF wrote:

The clinical dosing of Anavar is between 2.5 mg to 20 mg split into 2 to 4 doses a day. The rule of thumb for its use in bodybuilding says that for ideal results, 0.125 mg Anavar per pound of body weight would suffice. Some bodybuilders increase this to 0.2 mg per pound successfully.

Hope this helps....


The clinical dosing is for patients with HIV etc to prevent muscle wastage. If you can take var on an empty stomach, then you should but if not then have it twenty to thirty min before your meal. Var taken 8 hours apart, 2-3 times a day is sufficient

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21 Sep 2009 10:38 #23414 by Happyraven
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now i'm confused about PCT

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