Var Dosage, Var Pump

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12 Oct 2009 17:01 #25503 by milktuds
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Well so far my cycle is going a bit kak. I am on 80mg Var/day along with Prop and Masteron. I can't do any form of cardio because of joint pain and Var pumps. I thought the Var pump was bullshit, but today I had it so bad in my quads I thought they were going to explode, same with calves. Did 10 min stationary bike then I had enough. Got up after and I could barely walk.

So should I decrease my Var dosage to 60 or 40mg/day. Will this enable me to do some freaking cardio or what? Or should I leave the cardio out till PCT, try to gain as much muscle now, then start doing cardio again?

I wanted to do 8 weeks of Var but I think I am going to have to cut it short to 6 or 7 weeks max.

Please give your expert opinion.

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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12 Oct 2009 23:04 #25516 by Inja
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Ride it out and get massive.
Try push for cardio once or twice a week to keep healthy, but don't obsess about it. Try different cardio forms if you battle with one. Then go back to your normal cardio regime post cycle...

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13 Oct 2009 07:57 #25526 by Barbell
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milktuds wrote:

Well so far my cycle is going a bit kak. I am on 80mg Var/day along with Prop and Masteron. I can't do any form of cardio because of joint pain and Var pumps. I thought the Var pump was bullshit, but today I had it so bad in my quads I thought they were going to explode, same with calves. Did 10 min stationary bike then I had enough. Got up after and I could barely walk.

So should I decrease my Var dosage to 60 or 40mg/day. Will this enable me to do some freaking cardio or what? Or should I leave the cardio out till PCT, try to gain as much muscle now, then start doing cardio again?

I wanted to do 8 weeks of Var but I think I am going to have to cut it short to 6 or 7 weeks max.

Please give your expert opinion.


Im entering my 3rd week on Var, 60mg pd and the pumps I get down my back are crazy. I normally run about 3 ks in 20 minutes at between 4-5 % incline, yesterday I got less than a KM and my back just tightens right up so I had to get on the stairmaster then bike. Ended up doing a ton of ab work. Ive actually reduced cardio to 2x a week.

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13 Oct 2009 08:15 #25528 by milktuds
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Inja wrote:

Ride it out and get massive.
Try push for cardio once or twice a week to keep healthy, but don't obsess about it. Try different cardio forms if you battle with one. Then go back to your normal cardio regime post cycle...


OK, I'll ride it out and get massive. Nomad Var was shit. LP Var poes my hard.
Gonna stick to 80mg/day.

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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13 Oct 2009 09:35 #25538 by Brandon
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thank fuck for this forum! ive been battling with pain in my calves and lower back and its so bad I cant walk sometimes, but know i knw that its connected to the 100mg pd of var im taking :P i can do cycling, but running and playing touch are a no-no for me which sucks cos i need to be able to run 2.4km in under 10 mins before jan lol

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13 Oct 2009 11:20 #25556 by Barbell
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Brandon wrote:

thank fuck for this forum! ive been battling with pain in my calves and lower back and its so bad I cant walk sometimes, but know i knw that its connected to the 100mg pd of var im taking :P i can do cycling, but running and playing touch are a no-no for me which sucks cos i need to be able to run 2.4km in under 10 mins before jan lol


ditto...running is almost a no no... :laugh:

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13 Oct 2009 11:31 #25557 by North_Boy1
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Barbell wrote:

Brandon wrote:

thank fuck for this forum! ive been battling with pain in my calves and lower back and its so bad I cant walk sometimes, but know i knw that its connected to the 100mg pd of var im taking :P i can do cycling, but running and playing touch are a no-no for me which sucks cos i need to be able to run 2.4km in under 10 mins before jan lol


ditto...running is almost a no no... :laugh:


And why on earth would you want to run 2.4km in under 10 min anyway......haven't you got a car?

If everybody does it, is it still cheating?

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13 Oct 2009 11:59 #25559 by Barbell
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sien jy daai boom troop... :laugh:

Brandon must be meeting up with his old corporal... :woohoo:

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13 Oct 2009 12:12 #25561 by Brandon
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haha pretty close barbell....im planning on joining the british army in jan/feb next year so i gotta be able to run lol

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13 Oct 2009 13:04 #25574 by 00pump
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and lose all your musclles. or you going to take juice while u working

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13 Oct 2009 14:44 #25587 by Brandon
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well ill lose a bit at first, but once im in my regiment etc etc then ill carry on with the gear (if i can find a good dealer over there!)

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13 Oct 2009 14:53 #25589 by Empire
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Brandon wrote:

well ill lose a bit at first, but once im in my regiment etc etc then ill carry on with the gear (if i can find a good dealer over there!)


and if u dont get tested after your weekends off... a mate of mine got kicked out the british army for being drug tested where he tested positive for testosterone

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13 Oct 2009 14:59 #25591 by Brandon
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serious??oh well, then i guess ill juice it up again when i get out of the army :)

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13 Oct 2009 15:00 #25592 by Empire
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might've been cos he was juicing during his first year there where he was still pond scum but he got booted...

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13 Oct 2009 15:06 #25595 by Brandon
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haha yeah ive read some army forums and some of the guys reckon quite a few of the guys do it so i guess ill have to just gauge it when im there hey. but i need to run lol and calves and back are killing me! is there any supplement that can help with that issue?

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14 Oct 2009 15:58 #25754 by Inja
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Why are we joining the army?

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14 Oct 2009 16:09 #25759 by HaVoK
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Cardio aside, is ur var giving results? any big strength gains etc..?

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14 Oct 2009 16:10 #25760 by HaVoK
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btw, ur avatar is damn weird lol

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14 Oct 2009 16:12 #25761 by HaVoK
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i wonder why the army would have a problem with soldiers using gear, surely it would be promoted in the army haha

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14 Oct 2009 16:24 #25771 by Brandon
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joining the army cos its always been a dream of mine and i want a british passport lol :P

@HaVoK this LP var is amazing. seen some great results, but not size wise. I wanted strength and quality gains and so far, thats exactly wat i have got

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14 Oct 2009 16:25 #25772 by milktuds
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HaVoK wrote:

Cardio aside, is ur var giving results? any big strength gains etc..?


This week the magic started happening. Squats went up 15kg today. Will see what will happen with shoulders, triceps tomorrow. Well I gained 6kg in 3 weeks, don't know how much is fat, water and muscle. Using the Var along with Masteron and Prop.

Joints are better since I have been taking in extra Olive Oil, but not good enough for high impact cardio. The Var pumps are insane. After I did squats and stiff leg dead-lifts my lower back was pumped to the max.

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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14 Oct 2009 16:26 #25774 by HaVoK
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very nice good to hear1

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14 Oct 2009 16:35 #25776 by Brandon
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@milktuds, do you anything thaat will help with the var pumps???? like i said, i battle wit my calves and lower back. gets so bad i cant walk sometimes!

anyway, off to play touch now so wish me luck haha :P

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14 Oct 2009 16:45 #25777 by milktuds
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No, did legs today. After calves I couldn't walk properly. Just man the fuck up I guess. ;)

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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14 Oct 2009 18:09 #25782 by Brandon
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wow!jst banged some touch now, and i battled hey...its weird though. llike it'll hurt like fuck for a bit, then i rest for about 30s and its not so sore for the next 5 mins, then fucked again haha

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