Test Prop, NPP and Dbol

Hi,

I am looking at my 5th cycle now. Been almost a year since my last one.

I am keen to try a short cycle followed by 6 weeks off and then another short cycle.

Looking at:
Test Prop 100mg EOD for 8 weeks
NPP 120mg EOD for 8 weeks
Dbol 30mg PD for first 3 weeks


My questions are: Do I need the Dbol in the beginning considering bother the test and NPP are short esters? Will I see quick results? And what sort of gains would I get from this cycle if my diet is correct? I am looking to bulk as much as possible but also keep as much of of the gains as possible. But I see alot of sites say that Test Prop is good for cutting and not so much for bulking.

Thanks

it might be for cutting but it is also used to promote lean gains with minimal water retention... u should get some nice gain from your cycle... u could use oral turanabol instead of dbol for less water retention....

Thanks DJ

Oral turanabol? Doesn't seem to easy to come across. The rest is easy.

liquid pharmacuticals have got...very good quality..

I would keep the test dose higher than the nandrolene to counter any libido sides.

I ran a similar cycle with 50mg winny ED instead of the dbol at 120mg test prop ED and NPP 70mg ED for 6 weeks and was very happy with the results, especially the joint help from the nandrolene. I've used winny before and it hurts my joints, but with NPP it was fine.

Nice cycle maybe with the test dose a bit higher. I've found on subsequent cycles, it's nice to add the dbol if you're going to use that, for last 4 weeks rather than at the beginning of short ester cycles. I find the gains start to stall a little around week 4-5 and adding the dbol then adds new life to the cycle.

Tbol is also a nice drug, stacks well with test because of SHBG properties with virtually no estrogen aromatise. I used it at 60+mg per day to get good results.

Make sure you're running an AI to keep estrogen low so you don't get progesterone problems. And run a good pct, perhaps with some hcg towards the end of the cycle as nandrolene is quite suppressive.

Aaaaah! Prop/Npp. I like that stuff plenty.
I had a 12 weeker less than 2 years ago.
1 ml NPP/ 2ml Test Prop EOD sounds like a better option.

Next time round i will do 300mg each EOD.
And for 15 weeks.

Bigger doses and definately longer cycles for me.

You will have to see for yourself, but for me the results only started comming in at 7 or 8 weeks. I got on a roll at 12 but planned for the cycle to stop there so didnt continue.

Next time round i'll plan for 15 and keep my options to continue open!

Thanks for the advice guys. Will relook at the dosages. Still battling with the Turanabol. Does Liquid Labs produce it under a different name?

Edwil wrote:

Thanks for the advice guys. Will relook at the dosages. Still battling with the Turanabol. Does Liquid Labs produce it under a different name?

It's on the list Oral Turinabol 20.

My bad, it was right there all along.

What sort of dosages of Turanabol would be advisable if i went that route instead of Dbol?

Also Jackrabbit - you said you gains only came in at 7 or 8 weeks. I thought the results would come quicker cause they both short esters...

Edwil wrote:

My bad, it was right there all along.

What sort of dosages of Turanabol would be advisable if i went that route instead of Dbol?

Also Jackrabbit - you said you gains only came in at 7 or 8 weeks. I thought the results would come quicker cause they both short esters...

I would say 60mg+ per day to see decent results. Some go lower, but I did at 40mg per one cycle and had minimal results, the next I did 70mg per day and had great results.

I find short esters kick within 3-4 days with solid progress by week 2-talking prop here as I've never tried an acetate ester or suspension.